I am familiar with the Rize X but has anyone ridden an aventure and could offer how that might compare to the Rize X, my wife needs a step frame and the reviews seem good, the aventure is lighter and only has a cadence sensor, very pleased with the quality of the rize x, insights please
aventon aventure vs rize X
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Tom@WashDC
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theemartymac
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I'd toss a couple quick observations to look into just based on web site research only.
1. The new Rize X has a torque sensor - Aventon does not. No new Rize models have been delivered and reported on yet, so can't confirm it's performance, but I have a Rize X and an RX Pro (with Torque sensor), and the torque sensor is very nice once dialed in.
2. The new Rize X has a 52V battery - Aventon 48V. This won't necessarily change the range significantly - if at all - but it will mean the Rize can perform at full power for longer.
3. The Rize includes the rear rack. Aventon is an option. The integrated front rack (again option) look neat on the Aventon though.
4. Weight is so close, that 2lbs is insignificant, and a rear rack would almost equalize that by itself.
5. The rear light on the Aventon seems small and limited. A set of panniers would easily block it, and it's quite low and offset, so visibility might be more restricted than a typical rear rack mount.
6. The new Rize has brake integrated rear light meaning it comes on with brake. Aventon does not.
7. The Rize includes an adjustable handlebar stem - Aventon is fixed.
8. Drivetrain components are very similar, but the Aventon seems to be one small step up the ladder (Acera on Aventon vs Alivio on the Rize).
None of these are deal breakers by any means, but it seems like the new model Rize X is still a pretty good value for the money. Since it's a new design year though, it's all unproven until it's in the hands of people who can give fair feedback.
1. The new Rize X has a torque sensor - Aventon does not. No new Rize models have been delivered and reported on yet, so can't confirm it's performance, but I have a Rize X and an RX Pro (with Torque sensor), and the torque sensor is very nice once dialed in.
2. The new Rize X has a 52V battery - Aventon 48V. This won't necessarily change the range significantly - if at all - but it will mean the Rize can perform at full power for longer.
3. The Rize includes the rear rack. Aventon is an option. The integrated front rack (again option) look neat on the Aventon though.
4. Weight is so close, that 2lbs is insignificant, and a rear rack would almost equalize that by itself.
5. The rear light on the Aventon seems small and limited. A set of panniers would easily block it, and it's quite low and offset, so visibility might be more restricted than a typical rear rack mount.
6. The new Rize has brake integrated rear light meaning it comes on with brake. Aventon does not.
7. The Rize includes an adjustable handlebar stem - Aventon is fixed.
8. Drivetrain components are very similar, but the Aventon seems to be one small step up the ladder (Acera on Aventon vs Alivio on the Rize).
None of these are deal breakers by any means, but it seems like the new model Rize X is still a pretty good value for the money. Since it's a new design year though, it's all unproven until it's in the hands of people who can give fair feedback.
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antboy
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What about the Rize Leisure Step?
It's a step-thru frame, and most specs seem to be in line with the Rize X (torque, brake light, etc), except the 500w motor and 48v battery and 7-speed Acera, as opposed to the X's 750w/52v and 9-speed Alivio.
I'm a fan of the company. I have two Spark Minis from back before the name change, and I know one person with the previous model of the Leisure who's happy with it. I've seen a couple of Leisures being used by food delivery people here in Toronto as well.
I know the rize is good as I have the rize x what I need to know is if the quality of build of aventure is comparable as she likes the adventure as far as looks, she thinks the rize bikes, especially the new line are too boxy and linear looking so anyone with the aventure that has ridden a rize please leave an opinion
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after going over every spec, its pretty clear that the Aventon does not compare to the 2021 Rize X in any way, its just not as good. The Rize is running a 52v 15ah pack standard vs the 48v 15ah on the Aventon plus the Rize X comes with a dual battery set up for an additional 499!,the Rize has a torque sensor vs the cadence sensor on the Aventon! the Rize X also has throttle to top speed,the Aventon cuts at 20mph.
The Rize X is 73 pounds, the Aventon Pace 500 is 50 pounds. The Pace 500 is $1500, the Rize is $2199. With relatively cheap upgrades to the Aventon you can get the weight down to about 45 pounds. I looked at the Pace 500 for myself and my wife. I ended up going with a Yamaha Civante Road Ebike but will be buying the Aventon Pace 500 for my wife.
The Pace 500 is an 8 spd not 7 spd. It uses the new Shimano Altus group set which is about the equivalent to Acera which shifts about as good as Alivio.
You can go 20 miles at 20mph with the throttle on the Aventon if you want but that defeats the purpose of an Ebike. Why not just get a scooter.
The Rize bike needs a 52v battery due to its weight.
I do agree that a torque sensor is better than the cadence but to have to lug around a 73 pound bike ugh! Try pedaling that if the motor dies on a ride.
Get the Aventon for your wife, she will be happier with the reduced weight and the better handling. You can drop even more weight with lighter tires, lighter handle bars, seat post, seat, and stem. Once you have the adjustable stem dialed in, buy a rigid lightweight stem. The new Altus group set is decent. You can upgrade the derailleur to an Acera but I think that they are pretty similar based on professional reviews. You even get 180mm hydraulic brakes.
The Pace 500 is an 8 spd not 7 spd. It uses the new Shimano Altus group set which is about the equivalent to Acera which shifts about as good as Alivio.
You can go 20 miles at 20mph with the throttle on the Aventon if you want but that defeats the purpose of an Ebike. Why not just get a scooter.
The Rize bike needs a 52v battery due to its weight.
I do agree that a torque sensor is better than the cadence but to have to lug around a 73 pound bike ugh! Try pedaling that if the motor dies on a ride.
Get the Aventon for your wife, she will be happier with the reduced weight and the better handling. You can drop even more weight with lighter tires, lighter handle bars, seat post, seat, and stem. Once you have the adjustable stem dialed in, buy a rigid lightweight stem. The new Altus group set is decent. You can upgrade the derailleur to an Acera but I think that they are pretty similar based on professional reviews. You even get 180mm hydraulic brakes.
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the Rize X does not NEED a 52v pack because of its weight lol, Rize have plenty of other 70lb models bikes that are 48v, the Rize X has a 52v battery because its an upgrade and it offers better performance than a 48v pack! and you have the option to add an additional pack down the road as the rize is a dual battery bike, the 9 speed Shimano Alevio on the Rize is also clearly an upgrade over the 8speed Altus that Eventon use,The Rize also has 180mm hydraulic brakes...with integrated brake lights and tail light,not to mention the Rize is much fast, in fact there is no area that i see where the Aventon 500 outperforms or even equals that Rize,these bikes are on 2 different performance levels, imho the only reason to buy the 500 is if you cant afford the Rize.
You are not really going to notice a difference between 8 vs 9 speed and the new Altus uses Alivio technology. Both are budget gear but not bottom of the barrel. My wife's bike uses a much older Acera and it shifts great. Unless you are a professional racer you won't know the difference.
There is a huge difference between a 73 pound bike and a 50 pound bike. The lighter bike will handle much better, be more responsive, be easier to put on a bike rack (you will need a tray type bike rack for this heavy of a bike) and carry up stairs if needed.
How is the Rize going to be faster LOL. The Aventon is a Class 3 28 mph bike and weighs 23 pounds less. Most of the benefit of the 52v battery will be lost due to the weight difference. If you don't think that is true, go ride the Specialized Vado SL Ebike which is 36 pounds at $3600. It uses a less powerful motor and battery and it is fast, handles great and feels more like a normal bike.
There is a huge difference between a 73 pound bike and a 50 pound bike. The lighter bike will handle much better, be more responsive, be easier to put on a bike rack (you will need a tray type bike rack for this heavy of a bike) and carry up stairs if needed.
How is the Rize going to be faster LOL. The Aventon is a Class 3 28 mph bike and weighs 23 pounds less. Most of the benefit of the 52v battery will be lost due to the weight difference. If you don't think that is true, go ride the Specialized Vado SL Ebike which is 36 pounds at $3600. It uses a less powerful motor and battery and it is fast, handles great and feels more like a normal bike.
theemartymac
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I'd only add that they seem to specifically want the Aventon Adventure style of bike which is a fat tire cushy cruiser. If they decide to venture out of the fatty bracket into the likes of the pace 500, there are a whole lot of new bikes in that category (with step through frames) to consider.
Well that is my misunderstanding and mistake. Go for the Rize X over the Aventon Adventure style which is also a 73 pound beast. If you don't need the front suspension (which is useless if you will be riding on pavement and it adds about 5 pounds of weight. It also slows the bike down due to loss of energy when pedaling hard) then the Pace 500 makes sense. You can always add some fatter tires to it along with a suspension seat post for more comfort.
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On the bold, I would note that this is an opinion, NOT a fact. I would have the opposite opinion, something along the lines of ANY front suspension is better than none......
While I'm here, I would add that the 26x4 tires make the bike look, and feel, HUGE as compared to other bikes with smaller wheels/tires (26-27.5 or even 700c). These 26x4 tires are the same height as a 29'er! To the point my wife refused to even consider one. She took one ride on my Rize RX Pro (a 26x4 bike), and hasn't given it a second glance since. She wanted a step through as well (her first!) and we ended up with an Espin Flow - a decision we don't regret. She loves it.
If the reason for the 26x4 is ride, I've found you can pretty much duplicate that ride with MUCH smaller Schwalbe Big Apple or Super Moto X tires in the 2.4" width. These are balloon tires for sure, but these have the latest and greatest thinking that combine low PSI with low rolling resistance. They work great! They have MUCH less rolling resistance than the 26x4's while offering a great ride. The only downside is they aren't going to have as much flotation on sugar sand or fresh snow. My opinion.... -Al
we already have 2 e glide bikes which we have put 27.5 X 2.6 smart sams on which we use on trails, street and motorhome trips, we live 1 mile from a beautiful beach in santa barbara and the e glides don't work well in the sand so I got the rize x (with the 48v 19 amp battrrty which I never use more than 50% capacity) which she tried on beach and loves it so we need a second bike for her for our twice weeky 10 mile beach rides but she wants a step threw and loves the aventure, our e glides have cadence sensors so she is fine with that so in the end we definetely need the fat tires, the 2.6 smart sams just don't cut it for beach riding, we did end up ordering the aventure step threw which in both our opinions look way better than the rize x and have excellent reviews. Also the aventure front rack will be very useful as I find the rize x to be too light in the front. Will likely rust out within a few years but thats life. we may also try them in the snow at mammoth where we ski 40 days a year.
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theemartymac
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If you are going to be using it near the salt, get some ACF50 and use it to treat the bike once or twice a year. Aircraft grade corrosion protection. I have used in on my motorcycles since moving to the coast, and it works great. Google it and you'll find plenty of other bicycle riders use it in the winter and salty conditions.
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