Are you being cheated at the pump?

[fooferdoggie]

Anyone that believes in capitalism needs to suck it up and live with gas prices because it is a direct result. busies is going to rip you off if they can get away with it and now that they are doing it I see complaints about capitalism.

 

[Gionnirocket]

Let the Americans drill!
Allow leases to be renewed extended and allow new ones but also approve permits. We do not need anyone else’s oil or natural gas.. most electric cars are being charged from the original place everyone else in America is getting there electric (coal and natural gas plants). Batteries are only storage devices not power generators.
Get America back to energy independence.

Get back to exporting more than we import.

For starters!

Bad policy is all this amounts too and it’s on purpose.. force green onto everyone… hope gas goes to 15$ per gal … and a gal of milk goes to $20
And when your groceries go to another $1000-1500 more a month then you will really start to understand the actual cost of going green. They don’t want you moving around at all. They want you sitting at home and if they can control your movements which they will with these prices then they have reached there goal.

Put your money where your green new deal mouth is… I say we hit it hard and see what washes out…

Same stupid argument I've been hearing since the 70's...but it still hasn't happened.
But if we had started going green then (Jimmy Carter solar panels on the White House) ... We for sure wouldn't give a f*ck about Russian oil now.

 

[DavidRvR]

None of the green products are close enough in tech and everyone has sunk billions into it..

Not efficient enough..

Govt can not and will not fix our problems but they sure can create them..

Bet if you opened the pipelines and flooded the market with oil the price would drop like sack of potatoes.. excess supply will make it worth nothing .. it’s how it works.

If they keep creating crisis after crisis we will never get out of this mess... but one thing we really need to work on is refineries.. we should have been adding them for the last 50 years .. again supply and demand.

Flood the market and this wouldn’t be a topic at all.

 

[Gionnirocket]

None of the green products are close enough in tech and everyone has sunk billions into it..

Not efficient enough..

Govt can not and will not fix our problems but they sure can create them..

Bet if you opened the pipelines and flooded the market with oil the price would drop like sack of potatoes.. excess supply will make it worth nothing .. it’s how it works.

If they keep creating crisis after crisis we will never get out of this mess... but one thing we really need to work on is refineries.. we should have been adding them for the last 50 years .. again supply and demand.

Flood the market and this wouldn’t be a topic at all.

In other words.... forget my children and future generations, I want all my money now

 

[fooferdoggie]

In other words.... f*ck my children and future generations, I want all my money now

capitalists complain about capitalism. its terrible when you're on the receiving end. but kinda just too.

 

[DavidRvR]

In other words.... f*ck my children and future generations, I want all my money now

No but you guys get what you voted for. Elections have Consequences ..

Mean tweets ?? Really?

This is what the tree huggers asked for.. here we are.. not my deal just going to enjoy watching the Crapolla show..

Some of you guys really wanted this.. well can’t have your cake and now it’s time to eat!!

This won’t affect me slightly .. it won’t make me change any habits I have now..

 

[DavidRvR]

I’m honest and never cuss out loud. Gave up that habit when I repented and promised myself I wouldn’t get in the habit again. I had it real bad .. every 3rd word used to be a cuss word..

But I say what I feel for the most part .. sarcasm is my friend also because it makes great points and people seem to see through the posts and get the point.

 

[Gionnirocket]

None of the green products are close enough in tech and everyone has sunk billions into it..

And more needs to be spent.
Would be a much better investment than this... And then we'd be able to sit back comfortably and let them drown in it

 

[DavidRvR]

I agree both are a waste in my opinion but to each there own..

What happened to the millions Obama gave you those solar panel companies?? His friends?

Oh that’s right.. they took the money and bankrupt the company and disappeared ..

Donors get the best treatment on both sides. Sad the tax payer is holding the bag..

Same with this Ukraine .. no one is governing where the money goes or doesn’t. No checks or balances so a huge chunk of the 14bil will be sent back to the politicians re-election accounts or the family businesses

 

[6zfshdb]

Another thread gone south and circling the drain.

 

[Gionnirocket]

Sometimes when tainted, that's the preferred outcome.

 

[Rogue2022]

As one would expect this topic took a political direction. Energy independence is in the best interest of us all as Americans. Under the prior administration we were nearing there. We are a long way from that now. Politicians are staying in power by dividing us, they are getting more powerful and wealthy on our backs. They want us in waring little tribes, the more divided we are the weaker we are. Let’s join together and tell our representatives that we want the US to be energy independent.

 

[Gionnirocket]

As one would expect this topic took a political direction. Energy independence is in the best interest of us all as Americans. Under the prior administration we were nearing there. We are a long way from that now. Politicians are staying in power by dividing us, they are getting more powerful and wealthy on our backs. They want us in waring little tribes, the more divided we are the weaker we are. Let’s join together and tell our representatives that we want the US to be energy independent.

The independence part I think everyone can agree on.
It's weather we do it intelligently and move forward at cost and with sacrifice....
Or do we continue to take steps backwards... warring and killing everything in filth for the instant gratification of a few extra dollars in our pockets today.
Why/how there is a debate on this I find offensive.
Let us pray there is no WWIII as the opposition here is far from the Greatest Generation.

 

[ChezCheese:)]

Perhaps you are suspect?

People Who Swear Are More Honest Than Those Who Don’t, Finds a New University Study

I’ve heard it said many times: “I don’t trust people who don’t swear.” It’s not an empirical statement. Just an intuition, that people who shy away from salty language might also shy away from certain truths—may even be, perhaps, a little delusional.

www.openculture.com

Believe me, I swear plenty - - but not on an open public forum where children can be. It does not raise the level of discourse and it loses you the moral high ground. Not everything which flits through our brains has to be immortalized in the digital world.

 

[Gionnirocket]

I agree both are a waste in my opinion but to each there own..

What happened to the millions Obama gave you those solar panel companies?? His friends?

Oh that’s right.. they took the money and bankrupt the company and disappeared ..

Donors get the best treatment on both sides. Sad the tax payer is holding the bag..

So are you really comparing 535 million in investment in an emerging technology to 2.4 TRILLION on war that only produced misery and based on lies?
Was Solyndra without its (mostly overblown) scandal... No.
But perhaps read some of the details as I know of no great advancement without its share of failures.
Maybe we need to cut down more trees so you can see the forest.

 

[DavidRvR]

Gio.. you missing the point my friend… this is only one example.. I’m sure there are plenty more is my point..

And why do we need war or anything else to happen outside our borders? We don’t need anything from really anyone in the world for the most part..

You guys act like we are not able to balance both oil/old energy an work on new and innovative energy ideas? Why can’t both be used at the same time? Perfect example? Look at the pump… force it down Americans throats? It doesn’t end well (this isn’t China). Give people a choice.

So much wasted money.. which doesn’t serve anyone or anything but the politicians and those around them.

Waste! https://www.johnlocke.org/obamas-green-energy-failure-list/

President Obama's Taxpayer-Backed Green Energy Failures

President Obama and Congress's foray into subsidizing green energy companies is an unmitigated failure, and the number of companies going bankrupt or laying off workers is increasing.

www.dailysignal.com

We are about 1.1 mil barrels short on oil production right now. Compared to 1.5 yrs ago.

 

[Gionnirocket]

Believe me, I swear plenty - - but not on an open public forum where children can be. It does not raise the level of discourse and it loses you the moral high ground. Not everything which flits through our brains has to be immortalized in the digital world.

Ohh the children
.... and the moral high ground is overrated.

 

[ChezCheese:)]

... Maybe we need to cut down more trees so you can see the forest.

BITE YOUR TONGUE!!

 

[Gionnirocket]

Gio.. you missing the point my friend… this is only one example.. I’m sure there are plenty more is my point..

And why do we need war or anything else to happen outside our borders? We don’t need anything from really anyone in the world for the most part..

You guys act like we are not able to balance both oil/old energy an work on new and innovative energy ideas? Why can’t both be used at the same time? Perfect example? Look at the pump… force it down Americans throats? It doesn’t end well (this isn’t China). Give people a choice.

So much wasted money.. which doesn’t serve anyone or anything but the politicians and those around them.

Waste! https://www.johnlocke.org/obamas-green-energy-failure-list/

President Obama's Taxpayer-Backed Green Energy Failures

President Obama and Congress's foray into subsidizing green energy companies is an unmitigated failure, and the number of companies going bankrupt or laying off workers is increasing.

www.dailysignal.com

We are about 1.1 mil barrels short on oil production right now. Compared to 1.5 yrs ago.

Done with you.. I'm moving towards the future with the urgency required.
Keep your pockets full with dirty money as working with both and wrong choices is long past its expiration date.

 

[ChezCheese:)]

DavidRvR, I don't know where you are, but if you are anywhere that enjoyed the smoke from burning forests from other states and Canada, then surely you must realize that this is all one planet, and our environment is the whole planet. Trouble never stops at a line on a manmade map.