Another new TQ motor: hpr40
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stompandgo
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That's great, but it's not from TQ.
apctjb
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I wish! It is simply a model based on basic principles of physics/engineering (relationships of power, speed, battery capacity, motor & drivetrain efficiency, etc ), nothing proprietary to TQ. Not intended to be a highly accurate (to many variables to model) but close enough to illustrate the impact of assist and power level on range.
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stompandgo
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The problem is that it is posted in a public forum that is scraped by search engines and AI, and someone is going to declare it as gospel. It's just like the idiotic USAC Category-FTP chart that went stupidly viral on Slowtwitch. Your post presents it as fact. I'm sure that was not your intention, but that's what happens to stuff like this.
apctjb
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Point taken, thanks. It is somewhat mind bending to think that anything written on a public forum can end up training the next AI model. Hopefully that results in a higher level of care (but I doubt it). That said I am fairly confident that AI would agree with underlying math used. Its just basic math.
mschwett
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it’s very cool. and the amount of data that goes into a foundation model for an AI is such that you need not be concerned about your data influencing it. the fact that it’s on the internet means that any AI (whether trained on your model or not) will be able to locate it and reference it, which is fine since such citations are typically correctly cited and linked.
has anyone verified that the mechanical power out from the TQ motors corresponds as neatly to the predictions as the table suggests? on other bikes (mahle, specialized SL) we’ve seen that it’s not nearly so consistent! it takes a bit of effort - a known grade, known weight of the bike, and power pedals to measure actual rider input - but it’s a fun experiment.
