An open letter from an industry insider regarding eMTB trail access

I'm not at all surprised to see signs go up, the regulations went onto effect early 2019.

 
These are new to me. And foreboding. And somewhat insulting.Ebikes mentioned on the same signpost as dogsh*t. Not Looking Good
Where was the signage posted?

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The sign is on an EBR thread about Central Pensylvania Bike Rides. New Posts I think. Can't link. @6zfshdb post on Pine Creek Rail Trail. I think @J.R. posted it too.
 
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If you are ever riding in PA or NY Pine Creek is a destination. He discussed it with a ranger and talks about fat tires, too
 
The sign is on an EBR thread about Central Pensylvania Bike Rides. New Posts I think. Can't link. @6zfshdb post on Pine Creek Rail Trail. I think @J.R. posted it too.
The final chapter for Class 2 hasn't been written yet. The PA DCNR had Class 2 on the agenda this year. All late winter and spring meetings were cancelled due to covid. In June they tried to do zoom meetings and most regulation changes were tabled until they could meet in person. It was impossible to have public commentary and experts testify on the changes. Although few people attend these meetings, it is normally a very open process.
 
To me 20 mph is 20 mph. Pedal, throttle, or downhill doesn't matter, and many people my age could really benefit from a throttle occasionally due to physical problems. IIRC we can thank Pedigo for having throttles at all ...
 
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To me 20 mph is 20 mph. Pedal, throttle, or downhill doesn't matter, and many people my age could really benefit from a throttle occasionally due to physical problems. IIRC we can thank Pedigo for having throttles at all ...
I agree. I like a good PAS system, but throttles offer some riders peace of mind. It will take support from the public to get these bikes accepted. They will not be accepted if its left up to so called experts and regulators. The information they have is noted in the open letter and the idea that throttles equate to motorbikes and mopeds. Companies like Pedego and Rad should be offering demo rides to regulators. As it stands it's up to we, the people.
 
While I admire your faith in "we the people", I will put my faith in well paid lobbyists. 2 cents.
 
I remember the BLM "Green Sticker" requirements in Ca in the 70's along with USFD approved Spark Arrestors ( actually a sensible requirement ) on Dirt Bikes. Snowboards, Jet Skis. What I don't get, since all the issues listed, pertained to mostly non-voting participants. I have yet to run into a young , under 50, ebiker.
This guy from Trek spent at least 25 of his years advocating accoustic bikes along with issues that pertained to restricting sales of those products. His open letter is dated, even now. I think some $ will have to do the normal "pass thru" before anything actually gets resolved. I have made it a policy to go where I am welcome with my Class 2 and not go, or spend, where I am not welcome. Perhaps a letter campaign to state officials from retired seniors able to travel and spend might have some minor impact. Or pick a small business along a selected, restricted , trail section and tell them how their commissioners are capping their revenue.
 
The difference is @J.R. has actually done this, successfully, on the county level here in Central Pennsylvania, Home of Harley Davidson, Inc. where we don't even wear helmets on motorcycles.

Local is really key, but the companies can help them.
 
BTW I am not knocking HD at all. I toured their plant, they seem like good people. I mention them b/c I like them, and100 years ago they were where eBikes are now. Dirt roads and trails. They grew with the power of fossil fuels and the Interstate Highway. And they market to Boomers now, just like Rad does, I suppose. And I think it's funny that PA doesn't require helmets, but does require "safety" inspections every year.
 
I read with interest the OP and comments on the article, with it and here on EBR. I live in an area in SW Ontario, Canada where regulations exist regarding class 1, 2 and 3 ebikes, and speeds are limited to 20 mph/32 km. In my area at least, arguments about ebike access to trails are hardly even at their infancy. So it’s helpful to me to see how these issues might evolve.
I live 5 miles/8 km from the entrance to a lovely multi-use Provincial Park, which is part of a unique Carolinian environment beside a Great Lake (Huron), and well managed for conservation. It is connected by a paved track parallel to the highway that was constructed over 20 years ago by our local Rotary Club. The park doesn’t charge an entry fee for anyone entering on a bicycle (or ebike) and as a result I often enter the park on single-track grassy trails within a couple of km from my door. Some of these trails are virtually deserted, others have pedestrians and cyclists. They and the paved/gravel routes within the park are a regular part of my daily 30-40 km ride, which I enjoy immensely.
I value this access privilege and will do my part if/when needed to help ensure responsible ebike use of the park. I already see evidence that an occasional dirt bike (not permitted) has accessed and damaged some of these trails. This area is pretty flat, and high powered ebikes are also just not needed.
Here, as everywhere else, biking and e-biking is exploding in popularity so I expect some of the issues described here will surface sooner rather than later.
IIRC the big differance in US CN ebike law was a 500w limit for class 1 and 2 in Canada and 750w in the US or vice versa. I looked into it when I bought mine and made sure I could use the bike on both sides of the border,
 
JR seems the most experienced working with the *system", no doubt. Pa has a long history of two wheel dirt activities. MotoX, Enduros etc. I just see the potential of a really nice bump in commercial activity along R2T like the GAP. I rode a section in May and lets face it, those little villages could use any additional revenue. Then again maybe they see outsiders as a nuisance.
 
I think the best thing to do is to join a group and advocate.

If e-bikes bring about a huge wave of new recreation, then mountain biking will no longer be a fringe activity. It will have more people who can voice their opinions and attract public dollars. There will be growing pains, but biking will be better off for it.

I disagree with limiting the power/speeds. Dirt bike parks don't do it, but promote safety in other ways including directional trails. Cars (not the best models, but a standard nonetheless) don't have limits. Car commercials even advertise on salt flats by going fast and drifting. But that is about selling the vehicle and thus doesn't represent the reality. Somebody shredding a Spesh downhill is an issue?

I do agree with some more studies and data. I am all for making sound decisions to preserve and maintain what we have going forward. The rest of the piece seems alarmist without proposing anything really useful.
 
I like slow moving vehicle laws as a model. 20 mph speed limit. No power limit. Uphill or downhill 20 mph.
 
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