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But what's the driving force behind the aversion? Given the added cost of an e-bike I'd think it has more to do with an awareness of the cost of the bike than anything else. As in, taking greater steps to secure it from theft because of how much it cost. Or keen to avoid injury being familiar...

Have to wonder what sort of fall/impact was involved to lead to a "broken back". I mean, the spine has a lot of bones, including all the way down to your coccyx. Could "broken back" be a PR flack's way of spinning a broken tailbone?

Nice. I'd be worried about the heavy battery flopping around in a bag if you were actually off-roading.

A quick search brought up this thread: https://electricbikereview.com/forums/threads/spare-battery.34666/

Huh, I wouldn't have thought of that, but I suppose it makes sense. A lot of my past experience with bikes was that anything flexible meant it was going to break. But material science has hugely improved, so past hassles with breakage seem to be less so these days.

Clips on the past helped work around knee pain. Less necessary now with pedal assist. Half style also allowed for being unclipped for hairier parts of trail, because of the potential for tipping hazards. Might just throw my old SPDs back on as a test.

Yes, the pedals was something I didn't know about, it had these on there since this was already assembled. I didn't think to ask. I've had Shimano half-clip-half-cage pedals in the past, along with some mountain bike shoes with SPD cleats. I'll be shopping for new shoes soon, I suppose and...

A few rides around the neighborhood and I'm delighted with the assistance on the hills. Just the right amount of assist. It's a tremendous improvement over un-assisted. I still get plenty of pedaling, but without the sudden knee pains. That and the dropper seat is great for easier leg-over...

FOUND ONE. Bought a 2020 Turbo Levo Comp, in flat black. From Spokes Etc. at their Arlington location. After calling just about every shop in the DC/MD/VA area they had both the only remaining 2020 with a Large frame, and this one that's XL. I'm right on the edge of Specialized's website...

Been burning up the phone lines, over a dozen shops called thus far... one may have a 2020 large in black locally.... Wouldn't mind finding the taupe/orange but at this point I'm not going to fixate on just that.

That's a wild color!

Totally hear you, thanks!

I wouldn't have figured 'acoustic' as a term for regular bikes. Analog, maybe. But the guitar power/no-power analogy seems an odd fit. Whatever works, right? Haibike's NAINA differentiation is a concern. (Not Available in North America). Like not having their eConnect available in the US...

I can wait. I'd prefer not to, of course. But I've had past hassles with "buy what's available" bikes... not making that mistake again. It'd be one thing if this was just some random >$300 throw-away thing used for a beach trip or something. But at $5k... I'm inclined to want to get what I...

That's a tall stem you've added there. How much has that brought the rake back? (though I'm not sure I'm using the right term there). I'm assuming you've added that to provide a slightly more upright riding position? Makes me wonder about L vs XL frame sizes if a tall stem like that brings the...

Nobody local seems to have any on-hand. And for me it's test drives that make the difference. I can tell pretty quickly if I'm going to like a bike's geometry. Reading specs doesn't do it for me. +1 to that. I word my inquiries pretty well. At this point it's "I"m looking to buy today, do you...

I'm vacillating between a Turbo Levo Comp and a Haibike AllMtn. The challenge being finding a large frame 2020 Turbo Levo Comp, they're in short supply. Bike shops seem too busy to answer e-mails and phone calls are taking a ton of time trying to call them individually.

This is an important point for me. I don't want to spend at a lower price point and then discover the need to have to piecemeal upgrade this and that. There's a balance to be struck between complete overkill ($$$$) and under-shooting the mark and having to upgrade ($$ and then more $$$$ than...

Which Haibike were you riding before? Haibike's product line naming/structure is.... unclear as to how things progress.

I'll check with them, thanks. The display thing is a whole 'nother can of worms. On my arguably limited demo rides I've liked having at least 'something' showing me data for mode/speed/voltage. Thus the minimalist total lack of display on the Levo is kinda disappointing. That I can use my...