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I just saw the Trek FX+ 7s class 3 bike is awesome! I just wish it had a little more torque. I'm going to be heading to my local shop they have one, I'm going to take it for a blast. Even though I purchased a gazelle ultimate T10+ with the Bosch performance line speed 75nm torque with a class 3...

Well I ordered the gazelle ultimate T10+ in Orion blue. I should have it next week. I'm in California so it might take a week or two the dealership said. Looking forward to getting this and powering around town. The price point is just right. I do like name brands for local support. Local...

No I didn't ride that one, I rode the standard Vado photo attached... it had 700c tires. I was not interested in the other turbovado.. one you showed , I don't like the 27.5 wheel set. The black Vado SL 2.0 EQ shown below's also of the one I rode.

Yeah it's a bummer because I really liked the overall build of the new vado. I think I've made my choice. I'm going to go with the Dutch bike called gazelle ultimate T10+. It has the Bosch performance speed motor with 80 NM of torque. And all the accrushaments that the Vado sl 2.0 EQ has. The...

Yes I have, they had one in the shop brand new condition and silver, super nice, actually pretty light. It definitely felt happier and more get up and go than the newer improved one even though it has only 30Nm. About the new Vado SL 2.0 EQ, is one Stellar bike in every aspect of componentry...

Hello, I like that m560 power band! Can anyone tell me what mountain bikes or city bikes will be utilizing that. Or is this something that I have to build out with a frame.? Thanks in advance.

Thanks Sparky for your input and I can cure the speed motor definitely felt stronger through all of the assist levels and pushing to the top speed seemed more robust. I guess that has a lot to do with the torque and power output. I returned my Trek Verve + 3 because of the lack of assist and...

Well today I got a chance to test ride the new vato SL 6.0 EQ full carbon. I'm not qualified to give a full review so I will make this short. On flat surface in eco mode starting out and going through all assist levels up to Turbo I was pushing 25 26 mph with a very nice assist. I ran out of my...

Stefan, you opened my eyes to researching the mahle motors that specialized are putting into the bikes. I found out that the designation with an SL on any of these specialized bikes does have the Mahle motor. And I'm reading mixed reviews on this as well. Open my eyes to the Vado SL 6.0 carbon...

Thanks Jeremy well I finally fully understand what is happening.. my first thought was yes there is a aerodynamic issue going on with wind drag, but putting it into perspective on these electric motors and how they're designed to assist from the Cadence output of the rider, you would have to be...

Yeah I'll chime in once again about this constant issue that really Tans my hide about these Bosch units. That tapering is a bunch of malarkey. We need to get pure assist up to the given class of one or three. We are getting jipped and have to work twice as hard to maintain or even get to the...

No I completely understand what they're talking about there is assist but it's very mild when you get close to 28, at least from the Bosch systems that I've ridden. What I have noticed is that the ones like the CX and the performance line speed seem to assist you much better to 25 mph and then...

I think that these manufacturers should say that they have a maximum speed of 28 mph but from 25 on you will have to work for it. Perhaps they'll make a class 4 or five that will go to 38 mph and give you 28!

Stefan, how do you like the Brose motor? Is it trouble free.? On the other post I mentioned the new Vado SL 6.0 EQ all carbon, updated motor to a 1.2 50 newton meters of torque. I have yet to ride this but it is very inviting just for the 40 lb weight

Well I guess I am the odd duck out! I like light! I like fast! I'm new on the ebike platform, so I'm going to go into this hoping to get a light and strong class 3 bike for the buck.

Thanks for that info, that's what I was looking for, mostly to see that you could still get good motor support and it wouldn't be hard to get the speed up to the class 3 Max. Where I live, along the coastal areas is mostly flat and I like to get moving up to the class 3 speed when I need to...

Thanks for that info, I'm starting to see that on these class 3 bikes. But what I am seeing is the top name brands seem to run these class threes efficiently so you get some good range based off the different assist levels that you use. I'm looking close at the Bosch performance line speed...

Thanks for that update on the mph, but how hard is it to get to that 28 with turbo assist. I'm just curious because it seems like Bosch likes to taper off their assists from 25 to 28 mph, meaning you have to work hard with more effort to get to 28 mph. Is that so? Thanks in advance

Well I am a new ebike Roadie and this SL2 EQ is for sure tempting me. But not knowing about the Brose motor and it's Power Band leaves me on the fence. Being all the high quality drive train parts and newly designed photo stimulates my wallet to excrete money! But until I can ride one to 28 mph...

Okay so how do you like the bike so far. And have you been able to hit the top speed of 28 mph? Thanks in advance