Is Vado Smoking Addictive?

[Stefan Mikes]

I don't think it's just the UK.

It is Australia, too. Could be Ireland as well.

 

[Base]

I don't think it's just the UK. My Tesoro model was recalled in the US because some amount of the 2021 production had the levers set up "backwards" for the US. Either mine wasn't one of them, or the selling dealer did the recall. My guess is the latter, because the front brake line is too long and should be trimmed.

Cannondale has a few sku's which are for the Great Britain Market so one could be mixed up in Hengelo and ended up in the non GB market

Countries mentioned are all GB

 

[PedalUma]

I wonder if with Dagen-H in 1967 Swedish bikes changed. That is the day they changed from driving on the left to driving on the right. What about Hong Kong? @Base, I had a bike nerd photograph a bike yesterday, he only focused on components and never took a photo of the bike. He geeked out on parts whist missing the whole.

 

[PCeBiker]

Is that why your rack is set up like wheelie bars?

No.
I had my Topeak Rack Bag all set up properly but it was bouncing around like and making all kinds of racket,..

When I got home my water had been tossed off.
I had it sinched up as tight as it could go, but it was gone.

I cut the cord and tied a bow, but it was too late.

The flashing LED light that I glued to my Rack Bag held super strong though !!


Shoo Goo Kicks Ass !!!@

So,....
I decided to delete the Topeak rattle bag, then flipp and rotate the rack further forward.

I didn't have much in the rack bag anyway, so i put everything in a waterproof bag that I have yet to install properly on my ebike,..

I don't want my tool bag getting tossed into the tire then getting jammed in the swing arm.

So,..
I figure that if I get the moving mass of my tool bag further towards the fulcrum of my four-point rear suspension, I will effectively make the 1.190 Kg bag become more suspended than not and therefore nearly weightless.

I think s*it up when I the Vado.

 

[PCeBiker]

That is the day they changed from driving on the left to driving on the right.

My old ebike was built for the European market,..

When it was brought to Canada (more than 20 years ago) they flipped the handlebars over to get the twist throttle on the right where it's supposed to be, so now the gripshifter is upside-down on the left,..

I swapped my brake levers on my ebike at the end of last year.

The front brake should be on the right with rear brake on the left.
Just like any normal motorcycle.

 

[Stefan Mikes]

I wonder if with Dagen-H in 1967 Swedish bikes changed. That is the day they changed from driving on the left to driving on the right. What about Hong Kong? @Base, I had a bike nerd photograph a bike yesterday, he only focused on components and never took a photo of the bike. He geeked out on parts whist missing the whole.

Uma, what I've heard is the British arrangement of brake levers had nothing to do with the left-hand traffic. It has just accidentally happened. I'm sure the Swedish had the European brake lever arrangement even before the H-Day.

Just think how it is weird with gas scooters: France has the reversed front brake lever position.

 

[PedalUma]

I am putting the motor into my British gravel monstrosity after just reading Frankenstein. Then I do some wiring and programing. @PCeBiker's creation is my inspiration. But, instead of skateboard grip tape I will use asphalt roofing shingles applied with hot tar.

 

[PCeBiker]

I am putting the motor into my British gravel monstrosity.

Every Monster deserves a safe and secure home.

Then I do some wiring and programing. @PCeBiker's creation is my inspiration.

The Grip Tape is Awesome !!!

It stays stuck, but you can always pull it off to redo it, reseat it, or replace it.
It leaves no residue behind.

You mentioned touch points when you built your two-wheeled creations.
Grip tape on those touch point can be beneficial.

I glued fabric sandpaper to my throttle, as well as knurling the push lever with a for gripage.

Belt sander belts are Ultra Durable.

I Knurled a pretty damn Knarly pattern in my thumb throttle lever !!!@

But, instead of skateboard grip tape I will use asphalt roofing shingles applied with hot tar.

Go with the grip tape.
It's removeable, reversible, and reusable.

Tar works pretty good, but it makes a fukin mess.

 

[Gionnirocket]

My old ebike was built for the European market,..

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When it was brought to Canada (more than 20 years ago) they flipped the handlebars over to get the twist throttle on the right where it's supposed to be, so now the gripshifter is upside-down on the left,..


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I swapped my brake levers on my ebike at the end of last year.

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The front brake should be on the right with rear brake on the left.
Just like any normal motorcycle.

This is why I moved my rack off the rear triangle and to the seat post. You're killing your suspensions ability to work correctly.
The Seatpost mount does have its own drawbacks... but after trying both the Seatpost wins hands down.

 

[PCeBiker]

The Seatpost mount does have its own drawbacks...

I dunno dude?
It just seems so Damn Wrong torquing weight off the seat post??

I'm thinking that I'd snap it right off, or it'd bounce me off the road.

but after trying both the Seatpost wins hands down.

I'm thinking more like Hands-Up, and hang on for dear life. ??

 

[PedalUma]

In theory anyway full suspension bikes never have racks or kickstands. The load on a rack impacts the suspension somewhere, and the kickstand might be auto-deployed when going over an obstacle. One exception is the Tero X. It can have a compromised suspension with the rack, and have its kickstand deploy on a log because some people in a focus group said that is what they want.

 

[PCeBiker]

,.. the kickstand might be auto-deployed when going over an obstacle.

I've never had my kickstand auto-deploy, but the damn thing does keep bouncing around.

I've been thinking about a velcro strap or something, but I don't want swapping my batteries to become a chore.

Maybe I can reinforce the spring to make it stronger
I worked on my car,..

 

[PedalUma]

In Hawaii, the locals put cars and trucks up on blocks then spray everything under with used motor oil to prevent tropical salt rust. Then they smoke a Vado. That rust looks catastrophic. That spring job is highly questionable if required to activate the brakes or whatever on a 3 ton rig.

 

[Gionnirocket]

I dunno dude?
It just seems so Damn Wrong torquing weight off the seat post??

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I'm thinking that I'd snap it right off, or it'd bounce me off the road.





I'm thinking more like Hands-Up, and hang on for dear life. ??

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I take bumps and drops all day long. The 5 pounds (if that) maybe converts to a 10 pound heavier rider. Much less noise from.. and much less movement from the rack. The ride feels more solid in general.

 

[Stefan Mikes]

In theory anyway full suspension bikes never have racks or kickstands. The load on a rack impacts the suspension somewhere, and the kickstand might be auto-deployed when going over an obstacle. One exception is the Tero X. It can have a compromised suspension with the rack, and have its kickstand deploy on a log because some people in a focus group said that is what they want.

There are more full suspension e-bikes equipped with a rack, fenders, lighting and a kickstand. For instance, it is several models of Riese & Muller (the Homage has a suspended rack!), some Moustache and other expensive brands. The e-bike type is called SUV e-bike. Similarly to SUV cars, these are meant to comfortably take rides in civilized areas with rare visits to easy off-road.

Riese & Muller Homage

Specialized Tero X

Moustache Clutch SUV

Nicolai S16 MGU.

 

[PCeBiker]

That rust looks catastrophic.

Yeah, my car was a rusty turd.

That spring job is highly questionable if required to activate the brakes or whatever on a 3 ton rig.

My parking brake cable got rusty inside and started binding. The return spring wasn't strong enough to release the brake, so I added more spring tension so the brake wouldn't drag.
I replaced the parking brake cables a few months later.

 

[PCeBiker]

,.. For instance, it is several models of Riese & Muller (the Homage has a suspended rack!),

I like that fully suspended rack on the Homage.

It's a bit like @Gionnirocket 's seatpost rack, but it's got additional frame support.

I take bumps and drops all day long. The 5 pounds (if that) maybe converts to a 10 pound heavier rider. Much less noise from.. and much less movement from the rack. The ride feels more solid in general.

I guess having the rack fully suspended would make a Big difference.

It was the rough washboard roads that was shaking the hell outta the rack bag.
Getting the rack off of the swingarm and onto the seatpost would probably eliminate most of that vibration?

It still looks So Wrong to me though.

 

[Gionnirocket]

I like that fully suspended rack on the Homage.

It's a bit like @Gionnirocket 's seatpost rack, but it's got additional frame support.



I guess having the rack fully suspended would make a Big difference.

It was the rough washboard roads that was shaking the hell outta the rack bag.
Getting the rack off of the swingarm and onto the seatpost would probably eliminate most of that vibration?

It still looks So Wrong to me though.

I have to take my bike down 12 stairs on the way out and again on the way in to my house. I can tell just doing that... that things are tighter with less bounce and noise. When riding I don't feel the rack/weight.. and again less noise.
When riding off road I'm light.. Some basic tools, food and water.
And no issues when I run heavy like to the grocery store. But then I'm on paved roads and not jumping curbs.
Y_travel_MV

 

[Slaphappygamer]

Just a bowl with my bowl.

 

[DaveMatthews]

There are more full suspension e-bikes equipped with a rack, fenders, lighting and a kickstand. For instance, it is several models of Riese & Muller (the Homage has a suspended rack!), some Moustache and other expensive brands. The e-bike type is called SUV e-bike. Similarly to SUV cars, these are meant to comfortably take rides in civilized areas with rare visits to easy off-road.

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Riese & Muller Homage

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Specialized Tero X
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Moustache Clutch SUV

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Nicolai S16 MGU.

My Stance E "SUV'd"...



Mine in the wild...