Watana Bob
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Jeremy, you look a lot younger in that photo!
E-Gravel Bike…Looking for Advice
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Gionnirocket
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That's because it's one of the few photos he's not licking himself
Chazmo
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If you have any interest in a fat bike, you might want to consult my notes here. Good luck in the hunt!
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Oh, one thing is that none of the fattys that I recommended are in the 40-50lb range. They are (generally) much heavier.
fat bike advice to my eye doc
Hi gang, I wrote the letter below to summarize my thoughts and information on fat ebikes to my eye doctor who’s interested in going down the same route I have. I thought I’d post it here to see if anyone feels there’s elaboration/correction I should make. I express a lot of my fairly novice...
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Oh, one thing is that none of the fattys that I recommended are in the 40-50lb range. They are (generally) much heavier.
Cybersnow
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That is a very well thoughtful writeup. When we were shopping for an e-bike for my wife we took a look at Aventon bikes. She tried the fat tire bike and as she is only 5’2” she felt overwhelmed. She did like one of the step through bikes and rides it regularly. I also tried the fat tire bike but wanted a little sportier bike and bought the Zen. The Zen is (as was said before) a very functional “swiss army” bike but I would never try to ride it on one of the many single track trails in our area.If you have any interest in a fat bike, you might want to consult my notes here. Good luck in the hunt!
fat bike advice to my eye doc
Hi gang, I wrote the letter below to summarize my thoughts and information on fat ebikes to my eye doctor who’s interested in going down the same route I have. I thought I’d post it here to see if anyone feels there’s elaboration/correction I should make. I express a lot of my fairly novice...
Oh, one thing is that none of the fattys that I recommended are in the 40-50lb range. They are (generally) much heavier.
Jeremy McCreary
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Curious, what's your minimum grade for "steep" — say, going uphill on dry pavement? And does the length of the climb figure in?
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My short answer is if you'd find it scary to ride down it is probably pretty steep.
Sustained climbs of over 1000 feet per mile (so around a twenty percent grade) are pretty tough even on e-bikes that are the stoutest climbers. Any climb of that grade longer than a few hundred yards is going to be challenging for most normal people, e-bike or not.
Cybersnow
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I took out my new handy dandy grade measuring tool and found the steepest (that I know of) hill to only be 17 degrees and it is only about 100 yards long. On my regular bike it is definitely a granny gear requirement. I havent tried itwith my e-bike yet as it is about an auto hour from my house (35-55 miles).
Gionnirocket
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Gionnirocket
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Ok good... I didn't care much for the bars and riser stem either. Made it handle like a beach cruiser. Mine are still a little swept but much sport'er feel.
I'm really loving the M620/Rohloff combo. I can always get it to do what I want whether that's climb, cruise or roll at speed.
But it is what it is... so move on if you're not smiling at the end of a ride.
Jeremy McCreary
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Sorry, is it a 17 degree slope or 17 percent grade? The former corresponds to a 31% grade.
DaveMatthews
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Good call... here's a way to check...
Mr. Coffee
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Most cyclists and most bikes will be pretty much defeated by any grade over 25 percent, even for fairly short distances.
I'd also point out that very long sustained grades that are "easy" in short doses knock the stuffing out of most cyclists. One route I sometimes ride near me climbs over 4500 feet in 16 miles. Probably the steepest pitches are just over ten percent, but otherwise it is an unrelenting uphill for three plus hours.
I'd also point out that very long sustained grades that are "easy" in short doses knock the stuffing out of most cyclists. One route I sometimes ride near me climbs over 4500 feet in 16 miles. Probably the steepest pitches are just over ten percent, but otherwise it is an unrelenting uphill for three plus hours.
DaveMatthews
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There's a stretch on one hill I often climb that is 19 - 21% and thankfully it's short! Most of it is 10 - 15%
Stefan Mikes
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A nice tool!Good call... here's a way to check...
Jeremy McCreary
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I like many things about that app — especially the user interface. But I think it consistently overestimates grades by several percentage points or more — just as RideWithGPS consistently underestimates them.Good call... here's a way to check...
Admittedly, this app's overestimation habit is just a strong impression. But I've confirmed the underestimation by RideWithGPS with many spot checks with a mechanical inclinometer.
Maybe I'll remount the inclinometer and do spot checks on On The Go Map.
Stefan Mikes
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Ooh, I don't know. I've used the app for short and steep segments of my recent climbs. On The Go read it was 11.2% the steepest on the Marianka climb. While both Wahoo computer on the ride and RideWithGPS post ride both claim it was a 14.2% climb! Then, judging by my average speed uphill, I would say the average grade favours On The Map
P.S. I think I know what it is. There is a major difference between the maximum and average grade even on a short segment. At a single point of the climb, On The Map reported 15% grade.
On The Map single point value.
RWGPS single point value.
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Jeremy McCreary
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I think we'd have to know a lot more about the elevation datasets and grade calculation algorithms these apps use to really understand their discrepancies.Ooh, I don't know. I've used the app for short and steep segments of my recent climbs. On The Go read it was 11.2% the steepest on the Marianka climb. While both Wahoo computer on the ride and RideWithGPS post ride both claim it was a 14.2% climb! Then, judging by my average speed uphill, I would say the average grade favours On The Map
P.S. I think I know what it is. There is a major difference between the maximum and average grade even on a short segment. At a single point of the climb, On The Map reported 15% grade.
Gionnirocket
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You guys must be loads of fun to ride with. I glance at s*it like this anecdotally... but at the end of the day WTF do you do with this information.
Documenting every crank and photographing every turn is mind numbing to me.
Jesus Christ doesn't anybody just ride, enjoy the view and fresh air.
Documenting every crank and photographing every turn is mind numbing to me.
Jesus Christ doesn't anybody just ride, enjoy the view and fresh air.
Stefan Mikes
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That's what I wanted to suggest to you. A nice 55 mi ride at temperature 31 - 46 F and 4,500 ft elevation gain, constant raining, strong wind, and mud on the route.
Very refreshing.
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