Addmotor's new mid drive 1000W split rear differential trike

[DashRiprock]

Read it and weep boys...

Grandtan Turbo Mid-Drive eTrike

Sturdy, Ergonomic Design Fits Riders Of All Ages And Mobility Levels.

www.addmotor.com

If Addmotor throws this upgraded motor, mid drive and split differential in to their dual rider Soletri/Herotri already boasting a heavy duty frame and front/rear suspension?

I can hear the crying already.

 

[fooferdoggie]

and only 118 pounds a real lightweight

 

[DashRiprock]

^^^^^ Forgot about the whole leverage lifting (basic work) ignorance that we have here in the free wold. Ditto concerning our expectation that adding a 3rd wheel/features shouldn't trigger weight penalties or that well built frames should all be made of carbon fiber and cost pennies.
Wild guess that the Chinese simply work their asses off every single day as compared to the rest of the world while 'somehow' getting around the realities above to not only survive but have fun.

Funny how a calculating mind works when it is either forced or desires...which a whole lot of minds aren't bothering to discover today (let the video game or AI/virtual reality do it for you).

 

[BlackHand]

Nice word salad. I'm not the target market by any means but I have a hard time seeing how this would be the best option for many people.

For emobility most would be better served by smaller, lighter, cheaper options. Even in the same class something like the Evelo Compass(with dual battery option) is better specced, more maneuverable, 30 lbs lighter, still has 350lb rider+80lb cargo capacity, and comes from a respected company with a real comprehensive warranty for about $200 more.

If cargo and transportation are the main use case, once you get to this size/weight actual 3 wheel scooters probably make more sense for a little more money and weight. Far more capable vehicle

 

[DashRiprock]

I suppose that when you are the type of person who greets fellow forum members with:
"Nice word salad"
...you are probably plenty used to exposing your general attitude as such to all...so here goes it:

Nice word salad. I'm not the target market by any means but I have a hard time seeing how this would be the best option for many people.

Best option versus what?...your local company's bike below?

For emobility most would be better served by smaller, lighter, cheaper options.

A smaller etrike frame, footprint and/or wheelbase is not better nor in most instances safer for obvious reasons. Ditto for lighter. Cheaper is the Lectric XP story in a nutshell with some of the same compromises found in your (cough) 'apples for apples' comparison. You get what you pay for.

Even in the same class something like the Evelo Compass(with dual battery option) is better specced, more maneuverable, 30 lbs lighter, still has 350lb rider+80lb cargo capacity, and comes from a respected company with a real comprehensive warranty for about $200 more.

The Compass is not even close to being in the same class as this groundbreaking Grandtran M340T and you full well realize this.
Let's take a look at the specs.:
Evelo Compass Specs:

• Motor: 500w Mid-Drive versus 1000 watt mid-Drive
• Motor Engagement: Cadence Pedal Assist, Throttle
• Battery: 48v 10.5Ah versus 48v **20 Ah** capacity
• Range: 40 Miles Max versus 85 miles Max
• Top Speed: 20mph (I can easily do more than that on my heavier 750W Bafang driven fully framed Soletri front drive)
• Gearing: 3 Speed Internal Hub versus 7 gears (did you even read the specs. of this new Grandtran M340T or note also the hugely helpful split rear differential ALONE setting it apart from your horse in the race?
• Brakes: 180mm Mechanical Disc Brakes (2x)
• Extras: Rear Basket with Wood Deck, Full 3 Fenders, Front+Rear Automatic Lights, Brake Lights, Reflective Tires, 2-wheel Drive, Full Chain Guard, Parking Brake, Ergonomic Grips, Comfort Saddle, Dual Battery Ready

If cargo and transportation are the main use case, once you get to this size/weight actual 3 wheel scooters probably make more sense for a little more money and weight. Far more capable vehicle
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If you can't differentiate between epedal bikes and emopeds then...yes...why would we argue with your approaching everything new and everybody sharing new etrike introductions with the greeting:
"Nice word salad"(???)
I'll save your post and have folks refer to it when they're looking at new groundbreaking etrike offerings:
"Heck you don't need no stinkin' pedals...just go buy a moped!.."

 

[DashRiprock]

I would make the above comparisons and much more should Addmotor someday throw all of the Grandtran M340T features in to the Soletri/Herotri...yet things would get downright embarrassing as many who did not want to even throw a challenger against the latter quickly discovered (see above).

It got real quiet.

 

[DashRiprock]

One other point that probably should be mentioned when 'weight' is thrown around is the fact that I can fairly easily lift my Soletri in to the back of my comparatively high 1/2 ton 4WD truck by myself.
This is why a lot of us are attracted to this class of fully framed etrikes such as the Soletri/Herotri.
Their frames are built like brick poop houses in comparison to most, boast infinite modification possibilities, *ride comfortably* and haul large loads long distances.
Can everyone lift them in to a truck if they have zero experience in leveraging weight (ie. simply working with their hands/minds/thinking outside the box)...no.
Yet for those willing to view these new Addmotors for what they are (nothing fancy yet innovative) they might just be worth a test ride or roll of the dice gamble.
I did the latter and couldn't be happier for $2900 delivered.

 

[Mike_V]

QUIET? Here's two youngsters giggling and falling over grandpa's ride.
"this thing is dangerous' {like the old honda ICE Trike = banned}

 

[ElevenAD]

Wait what? A a split differential Bafang Ultra powered Trike! Pure insanity!
This is not grandpa's trike and i love it! I do think the blood will spill with a few buyers who dont know what they are getting into but..

 

[ElevenAD]

 

[MikeDD]

I would hate to try and stop this thing in an emergency. It must similar to my old 53' CJ-3 after crossing a creek.

 

[gromike]

I don't know, but if you keep talking that mid drive trike down the price might get low enough that I'd buy one.

 

[ElevenAD]

I would hate to try and stop this thing in an emergency. It must similar to my old 53' CJ-3 after crossing a creek.

If they were looking to meet a price point i would have taken some hydraulic breaks over the rear basket/box, they could have just made the box an over priced accessory like every one else does. Maybe they have a reason for going with mechanical?

 

[richamor]

I’d walk before I ride another tricycle. I got off of mine in 1960 or so.

 

[DashRiprock]

I don't know, but if you keep talking that mid drive trike down the price might get low enough that I'd buy one.

I'm hoping that they jack it up significantly if Addmotor morphs everything (the more powerful 1000W motor, the new mid-drive and the groundbreaking split rear diff) in to their Soletri/Herotri.
That should temper the crush of those suddenly wanting one just as bad as we both do and increase our odds of getting one sooner.

 

[keithj69]

Dude you are the most toxic thing on this forum. You pull out the trump card everytime someone has a valid point and you degrade them. If anyone slightly has a negative point (justified point worth talking about like an adult), you selectively quote them to make you sound better. Also on your repeat post of this were you are taunting people, you misquoted the addmotor site to declare a 3100 cell battery.
First of all that is wrong it is a 3200 cell battery. (according to the site, check, prove me wrong. or edit your post to make you look smart)
Second of all what the f is a 3200 cell battery? did they mean 3200 mah? Because if that is the case those are the 18650 cells that are becoming obsolete.

You have not addressed this one yet. Is it because you have no idea? You seem to know everything out there, how could you make such an honest mistake of a fat finger like this one. And no answer about the battery cells.

 

[keithj69]

I'm hoping that they jack it up significantly if Addmotor morphs everything (the more powerful 1000W motor, the new mid-drive and the groundbreaking split rear diff) in to their Soletri/Herotri.
That should temper the crush of those suddenly wanting one just as bad as we both do and increase our odds of getting one sooner.

the motor they have is more powerful than what you are saying. Once again, you are wrong. Why are you so wrong and so confident.

 

[keithj69]

Dude you are the most toxic thing on this forum. You pull out the trump card everytime someone has a valid point and you degrade them. If anyone slightly has a negative point (justified point worth talking about like an adult), you selectively quote them to make you sound better. Also on your repeat post of this were you are taunting people, you misquoted the addmotor site to declare a 3100 cell battery.
First of all that is wrong it is a 3200 cell battery. (according to the site, check, prove me wrong. or edit your post to make you look smart)
Second of all what the f is a 3200 cell battery? did they mean 3200 mah? Because if that is the case those are the 18650 cells that are becoming obsolete.

You have not addressed this one yet. Is it because you have no idea? You seem to know everything out there, how could you make such an honest mistake of a fat finger like this one. And no answer about the battery cells.

 

[DashRiprock]

****Correction to the above statement****
Please forgive my not encouraging everyone to contact Addmotor and explain the following:

No self-respecting man nor likely woman is likely to buy an old style/high sitting trike design which even remotely resembles the Grandtan M340T (period).
If you don't believe this, stick three rough looking longshoremen down at the container port on the new M340T, your wildly popular semi-recumbent M360 https://www.addmotor.com/products/m-360 and your similarly designed (bad ass) motorcycle style Soletri/Herotri.
The resulting side by side comparison picture (not to mention viewing a few American biker movies) will paint a thousand words in terms of your worldwide disposable income market just as motorcycle manufacturers have found for going on 100 years (study the designs).
In other words, put some relaxed low rider seat position and handlebar extension modification thought in to the trikes which two of those longshoremen are sitting on in that picture...and design your new mid drive, motor, split transmission plus everything that the Soletri/Herotri boasts in to a trike that would piss you off on sight if one of those longshoremen ever showed up at your house to date your daughter riding it.
Those three models sold well for Addmotor and are selling now for a reason which isn't anything about what the current M340T design represents.

There are plenty of us out here who greatly appreciate these two new groundbreaking trikes in terms of both design and function so please do not be discouraged by the trike (in general) naysayers in this thread.
Keep in mind, there are still Americans up here crying about getting hurt on motorized trikes 50+ yers ago and thanking heaven that 'the government' stepped in to save everyone but themselves.
YOU want to sell trikes to guys like these caring less about anything whatsoever here in the free world:
The_Wild_One

Easy Rider - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[DashRiprock]

****Correction to the above statement****
Please forgive my not encouraging everyone to contact Addmotor and explain the following:

No self-respecting man nor likely woman is likely to buy an old style/high sitting trike design which even remotely resembles the Grandtan M340T (period).
If you don't believe this, stick three rough looking longshoremen down at the container port on the new M340T, your wildly popular semi-recumbent M360 https://www.addmotor.com/products/m-360 and your similarly designed (bad ass) motorcycle style Soletri/Herotri.
The resulting side by side comparison picture (not to mention viewing a few American biker movies) will paint a thousand words in terms of your worldwide disposable income market just as motorcycle manufacturers have found for going on 100 years (study the designs).
In other words, put some relaxed low rider seat position and handlebar extension modification thought in to the trikes which two of those longshoremen are sitting on in that picture...and design your new mid drive, motor, split transmission plus everything that the Soletri/Herotri boasts in to a trike that would piss you off on sight if one of those longshoremen ever showed up at your house to date your daughter on it.
Those three models sold and are selling now for a reason which isn't anything about what the M340T resembles.

There are plenty of us out here who greatly appreciate these two new groundbreaking trikes in terms of both design and function so please do not be discouraged by the trike (in general) naysayers in this thread.
Keep in mind, there are still guys up here crying about getting hurt on three wheelers 50+ yers ago and thanking heaven that 'the government' stepped in to save everyone but themselves.
YOU want to sell trikes to guys like these caring less here in the free world:
The_Wild_One

Easy Rider - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Simmer down. If you're peddling Addmotor. Try it in Hawaii all you need is a 50×50 space to display your bikes. Toilet , wash basin an office space and parking.
Brah! we got Magicyle peddling full suspension cruising ebikes.

I might say put the pipe or bottle down as this is a trike discussion and...wait for it...Magicycle does not sell trikes.