What is different about the Das-Kit geared hub motor?

[Lukeham]

I am wondering what is the difference between this motor and other geared hub motors. I've read that it has metal gears as opposed to nylon, but I have found little more information regarding this. If my motor stops functioning can I buy a das-kit somewhere else or replace the gears with those of a Bafang? I'm just curious as to what information anyone has in regard to these motors. I have an NCM aspen and so far I love it, but I am concerned that if it quits functioning (motor) then I wan't have a way to power the bike as leoncycle.com doesn't sell motors except in kits for smaller rimmed bikes. I guess I could take the motor off of the wheel and use it on mine and have it respoked if the need should arise.

 

[MMM]

I'm not sure if this is the same motor that is on the Aspen. http://das-kit.com/Products/D5_Rear/wheel_set/25.html

 

[KuRi]

The motor is a mxus xf15r, limited to 250w. I opened the motor and it had nylon gears, not metal. You should be able to buy a mxus motor, direct replacement

I tried a kun ray 350w motor but it did not work properly (it worked but very slow and noisy). It needed a controller upgrade.

 

[-sandro-]

The motor is a mxus xf15r, limited to 250w. I opened the motor and it had nylon gears, not metal. You should be able to buy a mxus motor, direct replacement

I tried a kun ray 350w motor but it did not work properly (it worked but very slow and noisy). It needed a controller upgrade.

What if we mounted a mxus xf15r without the 250W limit?

 

[KuRi]

That is what I wanted to try but they sent the kun ray motor instead of the mxus. My guess is that it wont work either but if anyone tries please comment!

 

[-sandro-]

How you sure it's limited to 250W? Cause if you unlock the speed on the display you get 15A max and it becomes more like a 350W nominal motor.

 

[Deleted member 4210]

I am wondering what is the difference between this motor and other geared hub motors. I've read that it has metal gears as opposed to nylon, but I have found little more information regarding this. If my motor stops functioning can I buy a das-kit somewhere else or replace the gears with those of a Bafang? I'm just curious as to what information anyone has in regard to these motors. I have an NCM aspen and so far I love it, but I am concerned that if it quits functioning (motor) then I wan't have a way to power the bike as leoncycle.com doesn't sell motors except in kits for smaller rimmed bikes. I guess I could take the motor off of the wheel and use it on mine and have it respoked if the need should arise.

Let us know in 5 years how you feel about the Das Kit when it'll very likely still be running fine.

 

[ovt]

Hi.Does anyone know what Planetary Gears clutches it needs for a das-kit X15R motor? I want to have a spare in case they break down on my motor.

 

[ovt]

My ebike upgrades and custom from the beginning: New speed cassette 11-34T DNP(DRIFT MANIAC), new battery 48W 21ah 1008Wh, carbon sticker on the frame and fenders, reflective sticker, reflective Sticker Tube,custom brake light, custom light connected to the battery via usb port, Mirror Cycling Riding, seat Cushion Soft Gel Saddle Seat Cover, anti-Theft Bike Lock Bicycle Alarm System Wireless, WILD MAN New Bike Bag Frame Front Top.And it will continue soon with some new reflective stickers, new ligh with 5xT6 LED super bright, and turn signal light.

 

[jkvt]

My ebike upgrades and custom from the beginning: New speed cassette 11-34T DNP(DRIFT MANIAC), new battery 48W 21ah 1008Wh, carbon sticker on the frame and fenders, reflective sticker, reflective Sticker Tube,custom brake light, custom light connected to the battery via usb port, Mirror Cycling Riding, seat Cushion Soft Gel Saddle Seat Cover, anti-Theft Bike Lock Bicycle Alarm System Wireless, WILD MAN New Bike Bag Frame Front Top.And it will continue soon with some new reflective stickers, new ligh with 5xT6 LED super bright, and turn signal light.

Looks great! What battery are you running? Is that a Dorado Max case? I'm trying to figure out if I can get get a Dorado Max case on the bike since I want the 21ah too!

 

[ovt]

Looks great! What battery are you running? Is that a Dorado Max case? I'm trying to figure out if I can get get a Dorado Max case on the bike since I want the 21ah too!

Thank you!! This is the link of the battery that i bought it from aliexpress and it took only one week to arrive in Europe.

Reention Dorado ID-Max inner tube 48V 21Ah 1008Wh https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000156064822.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.437e4c4d1Dsheo Now i have double range, 45km / h top speed and higher throttle. I climb the big hills at 30km / h without any problem. ​

 

[john peck]

Let us know in 5 years how you feel about the Das Kit when it'll very likely still be running fine.

My 500w Das Kit just keeps getting stronger. Is 4210 a reference to a Tanaka pure fire? I have 2.

 

[jkvt]

Thank you!! This is the link of the battery that i bought it from aliexpress and it took only one week to arrive in Europe.

Reention Dorado ID-Max inner tube 48V 21Ah 1008Wh https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000156064822.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.437e4c4d1Dsheo Now i have double range, 45km / h top speed and higher throttle. I climb the big hills at 30km / h without any problem. ​

Thanks. Glad to hear it fits. This is kind of what I'd like to do. If I can pull off 70 miles normal riding, 50ish going fast that really set me up for being able to do anything. If I keep the existing battery that means basically up to 130+ mile range... which might be nice if I ever multi day. 45 km/h.. you must have the unlocked display too? I can't get that with the stock North America setup.

 

[ovt]

Thanks. Glad to hear it fits. This is kind of what I'd like to do. If I can pull off 70 miles normal riding, 50ish going fast that really set me up for being able to do anything. If I keep the existing battery that means basically up to 130+ mile range... which might be nice if I ever multi day. 45 km/h.. you must have the unlocked display too? I can't get that with the stock North America setup.

Ur welcome. Unfortunately if you want to reach 40-45km/h you need a display that lets you derestrict the ebike using the secret codes. My ebike was bought from France,i have an L6 display and i used 8088 code to get in the secret menu. Also you have to change the voltage from 36v to 48v.

 

[ovt]

New upgrade. Led strip lighs on the back with remote control and carbon sticker.

 

[Bitmugger]

New upgrade. Led strip lighs on the back with remote control and carbon sticker.

Are the LED's under the carbon sticker? I can't see how they are mounted. And did you grind off the rack mounting bosses? I don't see them either. Looks fantastic!

 

[ovt]

Thanks!! Yes, are under the carbon sticker, I cut the carbon sticker and sticked it over the led strip.I also used a plastic soldering gun : D

 

[Bitmugger]

Thanks!! Yes, are under the carbon sticker, I cut the carbon sticker and sticked it over the led strip.I also used a plastic soldering gun : D

Sounds like a lot of work but your effort paid off, the fit and finish look very professional in your photos! I expect you'll get lots of positive comments from other cyclists with those. They are USB powered I assume, do you have to plug them into your battery when you ride or have you rigged up another way to power them?

 

[ovt]

It took me many hours but in the end it was worth it, and I use a 10k mah battery to power the LEDs and the headlight. The battery it's in the bag. I prefer not to use the bike battery for that.

 

[Fred]

Thanks!! Yes, are under the carbon sticker, I cut the carbon sticker and sticked it over the led strip.I also used a plastic soldering gun : D

Excuse my ignorance...but what is a carbon sticker and where do you get them?