Two Yamaha branded ebike modification questions

Maestrodenada

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Very happy 2019 CrossCore owner and just bought a new Crosscore RC with the wicked 60% off + free battery + 5 year warranty deal Yamaha is running right now.

1. Are the displays swappable? I really prefer the more robust / functional display on the 2019, and the USB plug is handy. I see that the newer Moros seem to have the same display as my 2019, so it's not discontinued.

2. Has anyone put an IGH on one of these bikes? I know the integrated hub speed sensor is a challenge... I've seen a couple of threads about people successfully swapping out the rear wheel (with the help of some machining to make the sensor fit), wondering if anyone has done this successfully with a geared hub. Ideally I'd like to eventually put a

-Robert
 
It's been frustratingly difficult to find conclusive information online about which displays are compatible with the Crosscore RC, but there seems to be good evidence at least the fancypants Display C and will work with the PW-ST. I can't tell for sure with the other displays, like the Display B (which would be my preferred display). Aside from the additional information, my main reason for wanting a different display is being able to charge my phone directly off the bike battery. This has saved me numerous times on my Brompton Electric.

The clearest confirmation: I found the Haibike Trekking 6 uses both the PW-ST motor and the Display C. It's always possible there's some software aspect that would prevent it from working with the Crosscore RC, but it's reassuring.

Some more research:
  • Per several stores online, the Display C is compatible with all units from 2019 forward. However, Yamaha's own site says from 2022 forward. I can't tell if it's because there's a new variant of the Display C. Seems the same in all instances.
  • I found this manual [PDF] for some bikes with Yamaha motors. Page 2 seems to imply the PW-ST can be outfitted with either the Display A (which the Crosscore RC comes with) or the Display B.
  • When I actually look up the bikes listed in that manual, I can't seem to find a PW-ST model with the Display B... On the other hand, I can see bikes with the newer PW-S2 motor which are using the Display A, which suggests the bikes at least use the same interface.
  • This other Yamaha PDF suggests on the first page both the minimalist Interface X and the Display C are compatible with the PW-ST motor, although it doesn't say explicitly say so.
Unfortunately, I think one of us will have to bite the bullet to be sure!
 
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