Turbo Tero 5.0 needs new tires - Suggestions?

[CMASteve]

After 3,000 miles on the stock Ground Control 29 x 2.35 tires - the rear tire split along the center seam. The tires have been set up as tubeless.
I have been riding between 75 and 100 miles a week. I live next to a rails-to-trails trail system and next to a military base with training area access.
The trails are mostly paved or packed gravel but the base is dirt and gravel roads - lots of them.
So - I am asking for help deciding what tires I should consider for replacements.
Something better for pavement than the ground Controls and not as aggressive for the gravel/dirt roads.
Any suggestions? Web sites I should study? The choices are almost overwhelming.
Thanks for your help.

 

[Stefan Mikes]

Johnny Watts 365 | DD, GreenGuard | Black-Reflex | 29x2.35 | Addix 4season | 11159379

The all-season SUV tire Siped tread ensures secure interlocking on all surfaces Very good puncture protection thanks to Double Defense RaceGuard (folding tire) or GreenGuard (clincher tire) Addix 4-Season Compound: grippy and durable compound for all co…

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Multi-season tyres which are indeed all-rounders.

 

[Stefan Mikes]

Steve, select the folding tyre if you want to have it tubeless.

 

[Ben J]

I'm in a similar situation to you, except some of my trail segments are paved, and I often ride 4-5 miles on roads to get to the trails. I am using Schwalbe Johnny Watts (slightly different from the 365 above) which I like for the tight tread in the center (on road). They still have knobs on the edges but I'm rarely riding that aggressively. I like how they don't throw rocks nearly as much as the Ground Control did.

Even the Johnny Watts I have are a much heavier/stiffer tire than the originals. If you are tubeless for low tire pressures and "supple" ride, you probably won't like the stiffer Johnny Watts or _much_ stiffer Johnny Watts + "greenguard" layer.

If you are really pushing things, there are some good MTB tire reviews on Amazon. And a lot of people run a different tire front and rear (front for turning bite, rear for pushing bite).

 

[Nubnub]

I've been running tubeless on my Tero 5.0. As long as the gravel/trail is not loose/sandy - I"ve really liked running S-works 42mm Pathfinders. They are about 400 g/per tire lighter than the stock Ground Controls. Roll extremely well on pavement which I also do. No buzzing either. For winter here, I'm gonna go with 47mm Rhombus tires in anticipation they will handle the slick muddy conditions that build up after the rains. They also handle looser stuff better than the pathfinders but don't roll as well on hardpack/pavement.

 

[Stefan Mikes]

I've been running tubeless on my Tero 5.0. As long as the gravel/trail is not loose/sandy - I"ve really liked running S-works 42mm Pathfinders. They are about 400 g/per tire lighter than the stock Ground Controls. Roll extremely well on pavement which I also do. No buzzing either. For winter here, I'm gonna go with 47mm Rhombus tires in anticipation they will handle the slick muddy conditions that build up after the rains. They also handle looser stuff better than the pathfinders but don't roll as well on hardpack/pavement.

Can you use any tyre width as you please on the same rims designed to be used with 2.35" tyres?

 

[Nubnub]

Can you use any tyre width as you please on the same rims designed to be used with 2.35" tyres?

I don't think so. Various websites will show rim/tire compatibility. Keep in mind that mfg spec for rims and tyres can vary as well. So if you are not sure, check with your LBS before you buy tires that are nominally outside the listed compatibility ranges.

As far as the 42mm pathfinders and the 47mm Rhombus, I've ridden with both serveral thousand miles tubeless with no flats or other issues. OTOH, I have burped the tires on the stock 2.35 Ground Controls once tho probably going faster over some rocky stuff than I would on either of the other two tires.

Both the Pathfinders and Rhombus tires mount and seat easily. The Ground Controls do as well, but installing them they are slightly more difficult to mount since the larger tire flops around a bit more. Nominally the 2.35/60mm Ground Controls are at the upper end of what is recommended optimum by some charts for a 25 mm inner rim width.

 

[Stefan Mikes]

I love the Pathfinder Pros and I was impressed by the Rhombus Pro off-road performance. My next swap (Spring 2024) for the Vado SL would be Rhombus Pro 42-622, tubeless!

 

[Xthruhiker]

Just put some schwalbe marathon plus mtb tires 2.35 on my tero 5.0. I do a broad mix of riding. So gravel, road and some trail. These are pretty heavy, but what is a few more pounds.

So far they roll a lot better on pavement than the ground control. Pretty good in gravel and off road if you air them down. These are supposed to be bomb proof. Which is what I was looking for. So should get a lot miles out of them. Will need to run tubes.

 

[Ben J]

These are pretty heavy, but what is a few more pounds

I switched to TPU tubes (tubolito) at the same time I swapped to JW, and it turned out that the stock tire+tube combo and the JW + tubolito combo weighted the same amount to within one gram.