fooferdoggie
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nope but the whole blood transfusion and vaccine thing is not a thing it shows a lack of knowledge How vaccines actually work. it takes about 20 seconds to find out how they work.
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Sounds like you believe that the mRNA vaccines are like other vaccines.
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they all do the same thing trigger an immune response.
COVID-19 Vaccines
Vaccines are seen as one of the best ways to stop COVID-19. Learn more about the types of vaccines, including the newly approved Novavax.
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foofie, can you find anything deceptive in this article calming fears that some religious people worried about?
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As a practicing Catholic, I think the moral balance of indirectly benefitting from an abortion that occurred 50 years ago in order to take a vaccine that will prevent further death in the community is a no-brainer – especially considering that so many of the over 620,000 American deaths have occurred in the most vulnerable and marginalized in our society. We need to focus on saving lives right now. We need to care for our neighbors.
The Vatican and bishops agree. The Vatican has issued clear guidance that permits Roman Catholics in good faith to receive COVID-19 vaccines that use fetal cell lines in development or production. Read the Vatican's comments on the morality of receiving a COVID-19 vaccine.
Those individual cells from the 1970s and 1980s have since multiplied into many new cells over the past four or five decades, creating the fetal cell lines I mentioned above. Current fetal cell lines are thousands of generations removed from the original fetal tissue. They do not contain any tissue from a fetus.
Vaccine makers may use these fetal cell lines during the following two phases:
For the Johnson & Johnson vaccine, fetal cell lines were used in the production and manufacturing stage. To make the Johnson & Johnson vaccine, scientists infect PER.C6 fetal cell lines to grow the adenovirus vector. (Learn more about how viral vector vaccines work.) All PER.C6 cells used to manufacture the Johnson & Johnson vaccine are descended from tissue taken from a 1985 abortion that took place in the Netherlands. This cell line is used because it is a well-studied industry standard for safe and reliable production of viral vector vaccines."
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Do the COVID-19 vaccines contain aborted fetal cells?Answer from infectious disease expert and practicing Catholic James Lawler, MD
No, the COVID-19 vaccines do not contain any aborted fetal cells. However, fetal cell lines – cells grown in a laboratory based on aborted fetal cells collected generations ago – were used in testing during research and development of the mRNA vaccines, and during production of the Johnson & Johnson vaccine.Before we dig into the science, I’d like to have a word
It is true that decades ago, scientists decided to use fetal tissue to start the cell lines we use to test drugs today. However, the description of ongoing modern fetal tissue harvesting to create vaccines is dishonest sensationalism.As a practicing Catholic, I think the moral balance of indirectly benefitting from an abortion that occurred 50 years ago in order to take a vaccine that will prevent further death in the community is a no-brainer – especially considering that so many of the over 620,000 American deaths have occurred in the most vulnerable and marginalized in our society. We need to focus on saving lives right now. We need to care for our neighbors.
The Vatican and bishops agree. The Vatican has issued clear guidance that permits Roman Catholics in good faith to receive COVID-19 vaccines that use fetal cell lines in development or production. Read the Vatican's comments on the morality of receiving a COVID-19 vaccine.
Now, let’s break down the science
Fetal cell lines are cells that grow in a laboratory. They descend from cells taken from abortions in the 1970s and 1980s.Those individual cells from the 1970s and 1980s have since multiplied into many new cells over the past four or five decades, creating the fetal cell lines I mentioned above. Current fetal cell lines are thousands of generations removed from the original fetal tissue. They do not contain any tissue from a fetus.
Vaccine makers may use these fetal cell lines during the following two phases:
- Research and development
- Production and manufacturing
For the Johnson & Johnson vaccine, fetal cell lines were used in the production and manufacturing stage. To make the Johnson & Johnson vaccine, scientists infect PER.C6 fetal cell lines to grow the adenovirus vector. (Learn more about how viral vector vaccines work.) All PER.C6 cells used to manufacture the Johnson & Johnson vaccine are descended from tissue taken from a 1985 abortion that took place in the Netherlands. This cell line is used because it is a well-studied industry standard for safe and reliable production of viral vector vaccines."
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That's incorrect. They all trigger an immune response, but that doesn't mean they do the same thing.they all do the same thing trigger an immune response.
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Growing Number of Neurological Complications After COVID-19 Vaccination
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So many bells they just roll into the sunset.. Maybe their eyes are getting dim and their hearing is lost... Maybe warning labels in braille ?
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right your source is nothing but scientific fact. I mean the epoch times??? I mean this doc uses the most accurate new sources.Growing Number of Neurological Complications After COVID-19 Vaccination
So many bells they just roll into the sunset.. Maybe their eyes are getting dim and their hearing is lost... Maybe warning labels in braille ?
Dr. McCullough is a practicing internist, cardiologist, epidemiologist managing the cardiovascular complications of both the viral infection and the injuries developing after the COVID-19 vaccine in Dallas TX, USA. He has dozens of peer-reviewed publications on the infection, multiple US and State Senate testimonies, and has commented extensively on the medical response to the COVID-19 crisis in TheHill, America Out Loud, NewsMax, and on FOX NEWS Channel.
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Baylor Gets Restraining Order Against COVID Vaccine Skeptic Doc
The health system is seeking $1 million in damages against internist and cardiologist Peter McCullough, MD, for allegedly continuing to claim an affiliation after signing a separation agreement.
www.medscape.com
Regulators Move Against Two 'Misinformation' Doctors
Peter McCullough, MD, and Sherri Tenpenny, DO, face new scrutiny
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Little better? NIH? Again take it for what its worth.. Not sure you really look at anything anyways.. This was in the article..
Parents of Baby Alex Procured Unvaxxed Blood But Hospital Used Vaxxed Blood Instead — Now He's Dead From Blood Clots - 🔔 The Liberty Daily
If you love the news, check out The Liberty Daily's homepage. The story of Baby Alex is every unvaccinated parent’s nightmare. He was supposed to be given blood from an unvaccinated donor for his needed transfusion. The parents procured the blood from a donor at their church. But the hospital...
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Coincidences I am sure..Really sad I must say...
Must-Read Book Investigates 40% Increase in Deaths Among Healthy, Young People in 2021
FDA Documents Confirm Pfizer's 2021 mRNA Vaccine Lots Had Different Formulations Based on Lot#
FDA documents confirm different Pfizer EUA mRNA formulations were injected into over a hundred million Americans. US government patent shows many more mRNA bioweapon formulations
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Pfizer “Vaccine” Lot Sizes Do NOT Explain the Abnormal Lot-to-Lot Variability in Adverse Events and Deaths
I told you so! Data obtained through FOIA. Background:
www.trialsitenews.com
https://howbad.info/ if interested in some reading..
Btw.... I could care less who gets the shot or the 6 or 7 boosters or whatever number they are at... But I ask for the same courtesy asked of the unvaccinated.... If you have a side affect or and issue after the shot.... Should the healthy have to pay for you? Canada is allowing euthanasia I read... Maybe they have a good idea to get ahead of the curve?
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right because you can find articles that fit what you want have you investigated them? do you understand them? I doubt it neither have i. thats why I look at the people that write them. let's see the parents are on Alex Jones. the biggest lair of them all. what does that say about this story?? the problem is most of these articles have less then stellar sources and often pretty much way out there in the world of crazy sources. If you on Alex Jones if you are on newsman if your on fox your credibility is less then great. after reading more there is no evidence it was from the transfusion. the blood they were after was not available. they blamed it on the blood but that seems its just their antivaxxer word on that.Parents of Baby Alex Procured Unvaxxed Blood But Hospital Used Vaxxed Blood Instead — Now He's Dead From Blood Clots - 🔔 The Liberty Daily
If you love the news, check out The Liberty Daily's homepage. The story of Baby Alex is every unvaccinated parent’s nightmare. He was supposed to be given blood from an unvaccinated donor for his needed transfusion. The parents procured the blood from a donor at their church. But the hospital...
Coincidences I am sure..Really sad I must say...
this is from the parents.
A few hours after the operation, Dr. Beadle gave him a blood transfusion anyway, which had not been authorized by us. The next day, they discovered a blood clot.
We did obtain directed donor blood a few days later. The process was inexpensive. As Alexander continued to weaken, he needed more and more blood transfusions. They did give him the directed donor blood as required.
A few days before he died, they claimed they could not find the directed donor blood and were going to give him another transfusion straight from the blood bank. This is the situation Ron was referring to. We insisted they find the blood, and it magically appeared after we made a fuss.
This is an accurate account of what happened. There are definitely a lot of different narratives running around online, which makes it very confusing. I wish more people would check the facts before publishing.
He only had one operation, the one on his throat. They were never able to move forward with any heart surgeries due to the blood clot.
He was definitely a fighter. He continued to breathe for four hours after we pulled life support. The hospital team had said he would die in five minutes. But he was determined and kept fighting for every single breath.
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just a fast look one is an opinion piece the other looks pretty far out there.Must-Read Book Investigates 40% Increase in Deaths Among Healthy, Young People in 2021
FDA Documents Confirm Pfizer's 2021 mRNA Vaccine Lots Had Different Formulations Based on Lot#
FDA documents confirm different Pfizer EUA mRNA formulations were injected into over a hundred million Americans. US government patent shows many more mRNA bioweapon formulations
Pfizer “Vaccine” Lot Sizes Do NOT Explain the Abnormal Lot-to-Lot Variability in Adverse Events and Deaths
I told you so! Data obtained through FOIA. Background:www.trialsitenews.com
https://howbad.info/ if interested in some reading..
Btw.... I could care less who gets the shot or the 6 or 7 boosters or whatever number they are at... But I ask for the same courtesy asked of the unvaccinated.... If you have a side affect or and issue after the shot.... Should the healthy have to pay for you? Canada is allowing euthanasia I read... Maybe they have a good idea to get ahead of the curve?
I guess to some it does look that way... So far out it almost hard to believe... Trust the science as they say..
Another one....Probably need 3 or 4th booster to not see whats going on..
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Another one....Probably need 3 or 4th booster to not see whats going on..
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Contrary to Peter McCullough’s claim, getting vaccinated is safer than getting COVID-19, in spite of rare cases of myocarditis
Although cases of myocarditis have been reported following mRNA vaccination against COVID-19, the cases are rare, usually mild and patients rapidly recover. In contrast, COVID-19 is associated with a higher rate of myocarditis with potential risks of clinical complications. Overall, based on all...
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Other things of interest...
www.thedesertreview.com
So I guess the question arises again... What is Science? Its whatever the highest bidder wants it to be...
What do you mean by science?
Science is the pursuit and application of knowledge and understanding of the natural and social world following a systematic methodology based on evidence. Scientific methodology includes the following: Objective observation: Measurement and data (possibly although not necessarily using mathematics as a tool)
So much evidence and we still ignore the science. I will give it another couple years before I weigh in on my belief... Seems so far, the only ones saying safe and effective is our Govt...YEah I trust them... NOT! Time will tell... If a I succumb to Covid in the mean time.. well the conversation was fun.
India's Ivermectin Blackout - Part III: The Lesson of Kerala
The Ivermectin Effect
Ivermectin .vs. Covid In A Poor, High-Density State
<p>Uttar Pradesh, India -- 33 districts in that state have been declared "Covid-free."</p><p>Well, ok, not that entirely the entire state is Covid free, but close enough.</p><p><a
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So I guess the question arises again... What is Science? Its whatever the highest bidder wants it to be...
What do you mean by science?
Science is the pursuit and application of knowledge and understanding of the natural and social world following a systematic methodology based on evidence. Scientific methodology includes the following: Objective observation: Measurement and data (possibly although not necessarily using mathematics as a tool)
So much evidence and we still ignore the science. I will give it another couple years before I weigh in on my belief... Seems so far, the only ones saying safe and effective is our Govt...YEah I trust them... NOT! Time will tell... If a I succumb to Covid in the mean time.. well the conversation was fun.
fooferdoggie
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I know they really need to work on it I keep losing my 5G connection it sucks.
fooferdoggie
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well only fox and such are tell you its not. Remember their audience tended to die of covid more then anyone else in the is and are still dying from it; They told so many stupid things. hell our president told us so many stupid things and did them while he had covid. Remover the rest of the world had covid and if there was actually a serious problem there is no way that info could be fully suppressed.
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