The transition

Chargeride said:
The alternative to data centres is real brains running the algorithms.

I didnt know we can take human skin cells and turn them into neurons.

And now a Swiss company is offering a monthly fee for access to banks of these micro brain computers that they keep alive for scientists to run experiments on.

Sounds slightly questionable dont you think

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Our "tower of Babel" is forthcoming.
 
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This is what it looks like when you are losing:


So those poor sailors in the IO are going to be there eating bad food for a while.
 
Mr. Coffee said:
This is what it looks like when you are losing:


So those poor sailors in the IO are going to be there eating bad food for a while.
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The Sand Monkey has a very positive attitude for what's happening to Iran; good for him.

You do realize the fleet is deployed somewhere all the time. I don't know what the additional cost to be deployed in their current positions, but it wouldn't surprise me to read the cost would be similar. Gotta love click bait.

Full disclosure: I don't think anyone "wins" in a war-like confrontation.
 
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Its a bit of a stretch for the UK media to be claiming Iran is in charge, their military has been destroyed and their only leverage is the one theyve used since the oil was found.
I really dont want to be at odds with Iran, a secular Iran would be an asset to the world.
 
Roamers said:
You do realize the fleet is deployed somewhere all the time. I don't know what the additional cost to be deployed in their current positions, but it wouldn't surprise me to read the cost would be similar. Gotta love click bait.
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I'll tell you why it is different. All you need is to look at a map.

The US 5th fleet base is in Bahrain. That's where we stockpile supplies for forces on station nearby in the Indian Ocean. A quick look at the map shows that Bahrain is inside the Persian Gulf, on the wrong side of the Strait for Hormuz. So as soon as we started this war we cut off our own supplies. Ooops.

The next closest base for support is at Diego Garcia, which is (1) over 2000 miles away, (2) owned by the UK and they didn't care to help us in this asinine effort, and (3) we hadn't stockpiled all of the supplies there. After that supplies would have to come from Japan. Oh, and Iran has launched missiles at Diego Garcia so our stuff won't be safe there either. At best it is slightly less unsafe.

Normally in fleet operations our ships can go into port sometimes and stock up on at least some food and allow sailors some time off. But unfortunately because Iran has ballistic missiles in range and a carrier in port is an easy target we can't do that anywhere convenient.

NSA Bahrain is basically abandoned at this point.

If you really felt the need to fight this war, you owed it to everyone to figure out a way to fight it smart. But we aren't doing that.
 
Chargeride said:
Its a bit of a stretch for the UK media to be claiming Iran is in charge, their military has been destroyed and their only leverage is the one theyve used since the oil was found.
I really dont want to be at odds with Iran, a secular Iran would be an asset to the world.
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Iran has multiple advantages that we are in a poor position to overcome:
  1. They have more ballistic missiles left than we have interceptors left.
  2. Their location makes it inexpensive and low-effort for them to close the Strait of Hormuz.
  3. Geographically their whole country is a fortress where all plausible invasion routes are over mountain ranges with very thin road networks.
  4. They have lots of critical targets (mainly fossil fuel infrastructure in states currently allied to us) in easy drone range that we can't adequately protect.
  5. That same drone package would make any US invasion a slaughter. At least until we come up with effective anti-drone systems, doctrine, and adequate training.
  6. Iran's strategic objectives are clear and achievable. Ours are not.
 
But still America could wipe Iran off the planet tomorrow, its only humanity that holds their hand.
Do we believe they would return the favour?
This goddam war of diety has been going on for 2000 years
The west fronts muscle.
They front burrowing into the fabric of belief.
 
How would they accomplish this and not run the risk of knocking twenty percent of oil and natural gas production offline for an indefinite period into the future? There is no way we'd get all (or even most) of their drones even if we nuked the place. So it is reasonable to assume the Iranians have a dead man's switch set up.

What frightens me is that is entirely possible that those in charge right now are just stupid enough to think that is a good idea.

And honestly, the bright side of doing that was that a lot of people on this forum would either be walking or buying an EV.
 
Mr. Coffee said:
Iran has multiple advantages that we are in a poor position to overcome:
  1. They have more ballistic missiles left than we have interceptors left.
  2. Their location makes it inexpensive and low-effort for them to close the Strait of Hormuz.
  3. Geographically their whole country is a fortress where all plausible invasion routes are over mountain ranges with very thin road networks.
  4. They have lots of critical targets (mainly fossil fuel infrastructure in states currently allied to us) in easy drone range that we can't adequately protect.
  5. That same drone package would make any US invasion a slaughter. At least until we come up with effective anti-drone systems, doctrine, and adequate training.
  6. Iran's strategic objectives are clear and achievable. Ours are not.
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2. This is a bigger "world problem" than US. Time for others to step up.

3. Would prefer we don't do the ground thing. Bye-bye infrastructure from the air.

4. Time for those states to get involved.

5. See 3.

6. It is best to not publicize plans.
 
Mr. Coffee said:
How would they accomplish this and not run the risk of knocking twenty percent of oil and natural gas production offline for an indefinite period into the future
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Isn't that the best reason for other countries to get involved now, before something bad happens?
 
Mr. Coffee said:
I'll tell you why it is different. All you need is to look at a map
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Different, yes. Cost to operate the fleet, probably not. Especially compared to the economic impact on Iran. If you believe the click bait video, it mentions the cost to the US for the next 2 years. Nothing compared to the economic impact on Iran for 2 years.
 
Roamers said:
Different, yes. Cost to operate the fleet, probably not. Especially compared to the economic impact on Iran. If you believe the click bait video, it mentions the cost to the US for the next 2 years. Nothing compared to the economic impact on Iran for 2 years.
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That may be true. It is also irrelevant if Iran doesn't care what it costs them. Because we know a lot of people in the Untied States care very much what it is costing them.
 
Mr. Coffee said:
That may be true. It is also irrelevant if Iran doesn't care what it costs them. Because we know a lot of people in the Untied States care very much what it is costing them.
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Sorry to read that it makes a substantial difference to some; hopefully this is a learning experience going forward for them to change how they live.
 
Roamers said:
Sorry to read that it makes a substantial difference to some; hopefully this is a learning experience going forward for them to change how they live.
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I guess I just have to laugh because apparently you are now advocating that people should drive electric vehicles and get off of fossil fuels. And if not what exactly are you advocating?
 
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