The transition

Roamers said:
I continue to count my blessings I live in the Heartland; I don't see d'bag conflicts at all. The only thing I would like to see change is getting Class 2s off the MUP.
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Well then why are you commenting on Lycra d_bags if you have no experience with them?
 
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A cyclist does have the right to take the lane, at least in California, and sometimes that is the safest thing for them to do on a narrow road where a car may try to pass them unsafely. I try to find alternate routes and not put myself in that situation. Sure, there are rude cyclists just like there are rude car drivers. The difference is that the car will kill the cyclists in a collision between the two and there will hardly be a scratch on the car. I ride very defensively, even when I think I have the right of way. Because there are many car drivers that do have an attitude will not give your life much importance compared to getting wherever they are going a few seconds earlier.
 
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Roamers said:
There are multiple ways to look at this. I ride bikes the way I'd prefer bikes to be riden around me when I am driving. The advantage of being both a rider and driver.
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IME almost every cyclist is also a driver. Also IME whenever drivers are complaining about "entitled cyclists", they are almost always just whining that they had to slow down for 5 seconds 3 months ago and are still bitter about it.

Roamers said:
Plenty of lycra here. Reinforcing the Heartland is not full of d'bags like the coasts.
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As a resident of what you would probably consider "the coast", I've had very few issues over 10s of thousands of miles commuting and road riding over 20 years. You get entitled dickheads everywhere, in every group of people. In places with more people, you get more dickheads, because more people.
 
Gionnirocket said:
I need to clarify...
All my negative experiences with lycra d_bags have been when I was on a bike/ebike as well.
Not driving.
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Don't see "lycra gangs" around here so not sure where they ride. As retired people, we ride during the day. I assume they are working during the day. Periodically see the high school team out on weekends, usually on county roads that have fairly low motor vehicle density. It appears these days there are more "off-road riders". My son and DIL are part of the coaching team for the league my hot-shot granddaughter competes in.
 
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Me too... and I purposely avoid weekends as that's when they're out on the mups.
I'm on my daily +20 mile ride and I think I passed 2 on bikes, a dog walker and a young couple.
Retirement has its benefits... and that goes for shopping even more so.
 
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