The transition

Chargeride said:
Im thinking its probably the charger itself sat on the bike
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All MC batts are housed just rear of the tank, below the riders seat. As a participant on motorcycle forums for years I watched many riders go across to Lipo, to save weight or for longevity. Chances are that was a lipo starter battery fire. I wonder if the fuel in the tank burned off too? That would be a steel tank under that melted plastic goo on top. Chargers don't catch fire in my experience, they just smoke a bit when a component blows.
 
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Electric cars have regen braking. The Ferrari has falcy yellow caliper looking thingys. They also have an artificial sound generator. I think it is under the seats with a subwoofer. The Sonoma Raceway is a few miles away and before the next town in that direction. It is hilly with hairpin S-curves. They have vintage car races that are free and fun. There are some classic Ferraris that are actually doing what they were meant for.

Here are ten 2026 brand's cars racing there.
 
PedalUma said:
Electric cars have regen braking.
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Yes, most do. But most also have traditional brakes for a few good reasons.

One big one is that regen isn't going to work very well when the battery is full or nearly full.

Another is that often regen won't bring you to a complete stop and won't stop you very efficiently or quickly when you are moving at very low speeds.

Overall what generally happens with EVs is that the trad caliper brakes aren't used very much and don't require service very often. Of course, if they aren't used very often in some environments they will rust which is its own set of problems.
 
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Chargeride said:
The Tesla semi cant use regen when the battery is full, you would think theyd have some kind of resistant coil to bleed off the current
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I Googled Large Industrial Capacitor. This is what AI said: A large industrial capacitor stores and releases massive amounts of electrical energy for heavy-duty applications like power factor correction, voltage stabilization, and surge suppression. Depending on the design, these components manage anywhere from hundreds to millions of volts and are built to withstand extreme operating conditions.

A semi-truck could use two for backup redundancy to quickly bleed off energy and then slowly feed back to the battery pack.
 
PedalUma said:
I Googled Large Industrial Capacitor. This is what AI said: A large industrial capacitor stores and releases massive amounts of electrical energy for heavy-duty applications like power factor correction, voltage stabilization, and surge suppression. Depending on the design, these components manage anywhere from hundreds to millions of volts and are built to withstand extreme operating conditions.

A semi-truck could use two for backup redundancy to quickly bleed off energy and then slowly feed back to the battery pack.
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at what cost?
It probably makes a lot more sense to use conventional brakes for both cost and redundancy. Let alone I wouldn't want to be around if one failed or got into an accident.
 
Gionnirocket said:
at what cost?
It probably makes a lot more sense to use conventional brakes for both cost and redundancy. Let alone I wouldn't want to be around if one failed or got into an accident.
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So, it then needs regular kinetic brakes also, as backup. I love bikes, but kind of miss driving sometimes. At that, a manual with a hand brake. You could do so many amazing things. You could downshift with your foot's heel on the cultch and ball on the brake. Or apply the parking brake while setting up for a corner. I once had a 1979 Toyota Supra coupe with a truck engine and a five-speed with overdrive. It was a blast to drive. Doing all you own maintenance makes you fall in love. As with my first real bike and love.

Funny story about that bike; I was in LA and a short kid was picking on me daily. After school I got him aside. I had very long and strong legs then from cycling and could kick his butt from the sides, while he was out of reach of me. I did so for about 15 minutes. Then his friends in old Chevy lowriders tried chasing me. I got away on the bike. The next Monday, after the weekend, I was called in to the Principal's office. That kid was there. He accused me of fighting him. I said, show me the evidence! "I won't talk about it if you don't". No yellow, black, and purple evidence was displayed.
 
Google has now taken over the generic sms messaging app on my phone and giving me no option but signing it with my account, even if I ask not to share it will share my account with other google messaging users.
This hideous bemoth is now completely out of control, trolling through pages and pages of reddit how to block it.

They are drunk with absolute power and are absolutely corrupted.
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When will this stop, where is their limit?
 
RunForTheHills said:
Can you imagine the heat that would put off?
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No need to. You can find images of diesel electric locomotives where their dynamic braking resistors are glowing red-hot.

Diesel electric locomotives use the same principle in their braking system as regen in their EVs. But they don't have a big battery to charge so they just run it through a big resistor network with radiators on it to bleed off the heat.
 
in practice you rarely need to brake from speed when the battery is full, because you used energy getting up to that speed and staying there. the issue is more that the battery can’t be recharged at the same speed as it can be discharged, so it takes more than one speed up -> slow down cycle for the regen capacity to match the potential energy of the vehicle.

the one major exception to this is charging at the top of a hill. ironically this is exactly what i do, and so even when i do a “full charge” (i charge to 80% unless leaving on a long trip the next day) i just do it to 98%. by the time we get to the bottom of the hill it’s 99. our brake rotors are very rusty.
 
Chargeride said:
Google has now taken over the generic sms messaging app on my phone and giving me no option but signing it with my account, even if I ask not to share it will share my account with other google messaging users.
This hideous bemoth is now completely out of control, trolling through pages and pages of reddit how to block it.

They are drunk with absolute power and are absolutely corrupted.
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When will this stop, where is their limit?
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It sounds extreme but I think breaking them up and internationally, charging the people in charge with multiple serious crimes with long custodial sentences because of the damage to democracy, societies, children and their massive tax avoidance. The sickening courtcase of that psychopath in Canada right now, who sent hundreds of suicide packs to teenagers around the world causing multiple deaths including over 100-200 in UK alone - he's on trial but the social media companies who facilitated it when they could have blocked him and others easily, but y'no; Come on man! That interferes with our insatiable GREED.
 
In fairness, one thing I thing the G is trying to do is to make SMS messaging somewhat less insecure and unreliable. The problem is that nearly all 2FA systems we use every day depend on SMS and SMS is also notoriously easy for fraudsters to spoof. Since we commonly use 2FA for banking and confidential medical information that is a bit of a problem.

Bonus points if you know what 2FA is.
 
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Mr. Coffee said:
In fairness, one thing I thing the G is trying to do is to make SMS messaging somewhat less insecure and unreliable. The problem is that nearly all 2FA systems we use every day depend on SMS and SMS is also notoriously easy for fraudsters to spoof. Since we commonly use 2FA for banking and confidential medical information that is a bit of a problem.

Bonus points if you know what 2FA is.
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related to SweetFA?!
 
On a totally different topic:

In 1957, Ian Fleming (who in my opinion shouldn't have ever been allowed to publish books because he is an awful writer) wrote a work of fiction where the Bad Guy was a multibillionaire industrialist who built rocket ships, was a nazi, and had a plan to destroy the world. Funny how even bad writers sometimes predict the future.

What one can conclude from that is that extreme wealth above a certain level is incompatible with public safety and national security.

Recent events here in the Untied States have demonstrated conclusively that if you have more than a certain amount of money, you are effectively beyond the reach of the law. And the amount of money you need to do that isn't even that "large" by the standards of some of the fortunes out there. There are probably many thousands of people in the Untied States who fit into that category.

So it seems we have a binary solution set on our hands:
  1. We can change our justice system and legal procedures so immense wealth isn't the huge advantage it currently is.
  2. We can limit the amount of wealth any one person can control to a maximum size.
 
Gionnirocket said:
at what cost?
It probably makes a lot more sense to use conventional brakes for both cost and redundancy. Let alone I wouldn't want to be around if one failed or got into an accident.
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Regen braking is great, but its not as strong as conventional brakes, so all electric cars still have those. So it makes sense to just disable regen when you have nowhere to put the power and use the conventional brakes.

I assume its seamless (the car decides how much regen and how much conventional brake to use depending on the situation and how much braking is being asked for) but I'm not totally sure. I'll have to ask my brother how his Rivian does it. Regardless, he has commented that the general costs are much lower on his Rivian than his Bronco, and brakes are part of that. Brake pads last a really, really long time on an EV since they are used much less frequently.

I ride electric skateboards which use regenerative braking only. Its strong, but it does cut out when the battery is full. New riders have to be warned that your brakes won't work if the battery is full!
 
jabberwocky said:
I assume it’s seamless (the car decides how much regen and how much conventional brake to use depending on the situation and how much braking is being asked for) but I'm not totally sure. ….
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totally seamless, press the brakes a little and you see the power use go to negative, a little harder it goes more negative, harder still it doesn’t go any further but you stop much faster. on many EVs there’s also a steering wheel paddle that trigger full regen braking. i actually use that a lot, only using the pedal for emergency stops.
 
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