stompandgo's Pinarello Nytro E5 Allroad build thread

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btw, in Europe the standard for e-bike frontlights is like this

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you ,ight have dialed in the frontlight after the photo's... how it looks at this moment, you would be blinding truck drivers

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It's perspective on the photo. Look at the side view. Even though the light is round, it has a flat cutoff to Euro standard. It may need some adjusting, though. I'll check it out.
 
Stefan Mikes said:
Jeremy, the technique of riding in loose sand looks like this (at least in my case):
  • TURBO mode on
  • A very low gear
  • Assume a possibly most upright riding position
  • Touch the handlebars very delicately just to steer the bike but your weight must be off the bars
  • If descending, ride through the sand at the full speed. It is a scary experience but it works!
It works unless the terrain is just a sand desert :)
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Thanks, I'll give that a try!
 
I am in the process of upgrading the ProMax F1 brakes on the Pinarello (it should have come with Deore), to XTR. I was not happy with the performance of the F1's after bedding them in. The frame is set up for flat mount front and rear. I wanted to use the XTR XC levers, which are small, lightweight, and responsive. The caveat is, they use low viscosity oil. Shimano makes a rear-only flat mount brake caliper for LV oil, the MT805, which is a direct mount for 160mm rotors. The problem is the front. The XTR caliper is post mount, so I had to use an adapter. Shimano does not make a flat mount front caliper that is designed for LV oil. I find that ridiculous, since it was Shimano who pushed the industry into flat mount to begin with. Both rotors were upgraded to Dura-Ace CL900.

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Keep this up, and you'll have the most tricked-out flat-bar Pinarello on the planet!


I know nothing about this stuff, but caliper mount issues turned out to be the biggest headaches in this flat-bar conversion project. Might be something helpful here.
 
stompandgo said:
I am in the process of upgrading the ProMax F1 brakes on the Pinarello (it should have come with Deore), to XTR. I was not happy with the performance of the F1's after bedding them in. The frame is set up for flat mount front and rear. I wanted to use the XTR XC levers, which are small, lightweight, and responsive. The caveat is, they use low viscosity oil. Shimano makes a rear-only flat mount brake caliper for LV oil, the MT805, which is a direct mount for 160mm rotors. The problem is the front. The XTR caliper is post mount, so I had to use an adapter. Shimano does not make a flat mount front caliper that is designed for LV oil. I find that ridiculous, since it was Shimano who pushed the industry into flat mount to begin with. Both rotors were upgraded to Dura-Ace CL900.

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Hey, Chris, am I seeing some optical illusion or is that rotor more of a conical section than a flat circle? Is that typical? Is that what you mean by a "flat mount?” Pardon the ignorance; that looks very weird to me.
 
Jeremy McCreary said:
Keep this up, and you'll have the most tricked-out flat-bar Pinarello on the planet!


I know nothing about this stuff, but caliper mount issues turned out to be the biggest headaches in this flat-bar conversion project. Might be something helpful here.
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That's a gorgeous bike. I love what they did with it. The Orca is a race bike, though, whereas my Allroad is based on a gravel frame (Grevil). The geometry is very different than the Orca. I don't have to worry about twitchiness. I did shorten the bars to 660mm as part of this upgrade, and I will be swapping the stem for a 110cm from the 100cm stock stem, based on my fit parameters. Unfortunately, because of the headlight, I will have to pull the internal battery and drop the motor to disconnect it (Pinarello TICR - every hose/cable/wire runs through the stem). The upside is that should make it a lot easier to run the rear brake hose.

I made my own problems with the calipers by choosing M9200. I could have taken the sane route and gone with Deore XT M8100, which are flat mount front and rear.
 
Chazmo said:
Hey, Chris, am I seeing some optical illusion or is that rotor more of a conical section than a flat circle? Is that typical? Is that what you mean by a "flat mount?” Pardon the ignorance; that looks very weird to me.
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I don't see this, but it's probably my cellphone's distortion. The rotor is a standard CL900 Dura-Ace rotor, as perfectly circular as they make them.
 
stompandgo said:
That's a gorgeous bike. I love what they did with it. The Orca is a race bike, though, whereas my Allroad is based on a gravel frame (Grevil). The geometry is very different than the Orca. I don't have to worry about twitchiness. I did shorten the bars to 660mm as part of this upgrade, and I will be swapping the stem for a 110cm from the 100cm stock stem, based on my fit parameters. Unfortunately, because of the headlight, I will have to pull the internal battery and drop the motor to disconnect it (Pinarello TICR - every hose/cable/wire runs through the stem). The upside is that should make it a lot easier to run the rear brake hose.

I made my own problems with the calipers by choosing M9200. I could have taken the sane route and gone with Deore XT M8100, which are flat mount front and rear.
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Must be be nice to have a highly-customized high-end bike put together by somebody who knows what they're doing!

Really eager to see the finshed product out in the wild with beaches in the background. Bet you are, too.

I know, I know, bikes are like software — never finished, just released.
 
stompandgo said:
I am in the process of upgrading the ProMax F1 brakes on the Pinarello (it should have come with Deore), to XTR. I was not happy with the performance of the F1's after bedding them in. The frame is set up for flat mount front and rear. I wanted to use the XTR XC levers, which are small, lightweight, and responsive. The caveat is, they use low viscosity oil. Shimano makes a rear-only flat mount brake caliper for LV oil, the MT805, which is a direct mount for 160mm rotors. The problem is the front. The XTR caliper is post mount, so I had to use an adapter. Shimano does not make a flat mount front caliper that is designed for LV oil. I find that ridiculous, since it was Shimano who pushed the industry into flat mount to begin with. Both rotors were upgraded to Dura-Ace CL900.

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Looks great! I'm putting a 2nd wheelset together so I can have a nicer road set and use the old wheels as a winter/off-road set. Got a pair of MT900 rotors for the new wheels. The CL's look a little cleaner to me, but the MT900 is available with the speed sensor magnet I need on my Bosch (and it's half the price).

My original wheels have the MT800's which work fine, but the light colored cooling fins ALWAYS look grungy. Hopefully the black will be better in that respect.

@stompandgo . Have you had any problems with the valve stems on the Tubolitos? All of mine eventually started leaking where the plastic stem threads on. I got one of Silca's new TPU tubes on sale last month and it seems nice, although overpriced like most TPU's.
 
Chazmo said:
Hey, Chris, am I seeing some optical illusion or is that rotor more of a conical section than a flat circle? Is that typical? Is that what you mean by a "flat mount?” Pardon the ignorance; that looks very weird to me.
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I also see that rotor as conical — even though I know it must be planar. Struck me the first time I saw it, and I still see it that way.

Cool illusion. Maybe it's the lighting.
 
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