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re: "Specialized, I do hope you're absorbing all the valuable feedback on these threads..."

You mean there is someone there? They don't even answer the phone!

I'd love to see how their business 'resumes' after Covid. Just sayin'

And yes, Brendon, I do understand the value of a LBS, but there are not too may as good as you seem to be and it's almost like finding that perfect diamond in the rough if you catch my drift, so at times it would be nice to interface with those at the helm.
Yeah I agree Here I spend almost $4000 at the place . Yet nobody even held the door open or helped me load the Bike : Or explained anything at all. I've found if you want answers you have to get on friendly terms with The Shops Mechanics > Which isn't always possible with how some of these places are setup.

If I owned a LBS and someone bought a Bike at any Price : I'd at least help him Load it up to transport home:
 
Yes, this is the strange new world we live in. Although there are many great LBS's, it's like looking for a needle in a haystack. And when found, if everyone else found the very same "good one", then it's stacked wait times, as well as a host of other issues associated with want to use the best available dealer.
There is no magic answer. It seems like as we progress in society there are more of these types of scenarios associated with almost any type of business.
Makes me wonder if it will become the new "norm" after the dust settles.
As long as I (and others) can do the minimal maintenance necessary and only rely on the LBS for those tough to tackle problems (if ever), I think most also should do well.

But shifting gears here a moment; if the sale is made, most people rarely come back unless there is a problem or they cannot do things themselves. Also, if the problem is user created and not due to a manufacturing or warranty issue, then the customer has to pay for the 'fix', right? Sure, lots of happy customers revisit to buy accessories, and even more bikes. But my point is if a LBS has to solely rely on sales of bikes (#1), sales of accessories (#2), sales of service related items (#3), the ability to stay in business is tough. Lots of LBS'es are riding the wave right now, but when the surge is over, who remains, which are the "good ones" and how the parent company of the bike manufacturers decide to move forward as a business model is key. A lot of different businesses are realizing that the Covid pandemic has created an entire new way of doing business....some like the new way, others don't. We shall see as it all shakes out.
 
If I owned a LBS and someone bought a Bike at any Price : I'd at least help him Load it up to transport home:
My experience with the Giant LBS has been they always helped me get my bike into the car, was that during the purchase or after each servicing... But that LBS is claimed to be the best LBS in Warsaw of all of them.
 
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There are a couple of LBS here in the Stockholm area that offer 1 year or 2 years of free adjustments to the bicycle you buy. I think there is one that includes lifetime basic adjustments.
E.g. adjusting shifters or brakes and general check up. Last time I got a checkup I needed a new chain. I was charged for the chain but no labour cost.
This included service brings the customers back to the shop and a possibility to sell some bike gear.
 
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Yes, this is the strange new world we live in. Although there are many great LBS's, it's like looking for a needle in a haystack. And when found, if everyone else found the very same "good one", then it's stacked wait times, as well as a host of other issues associated with want to use the best available dealer.
There is no magic answer. It seems like as we progress in society there are more of these types of scenarios associated with almost any type of business.
Makes me wonder if it will become the new "norm" after the dust settles.
As long as I (and others) can do the minimal maintenance necessary and only rely on the LBS for those tough to tackle problems (if ever), I think most also should do well.

But shifting gears here a moment; if the sale is made, most people rarely come back unless there is a problem or they cannot do things themselves. Also, if the problem is user created and not due to a manufacturing or warranty issue, then the customer has to pay for the 'fix', right? Sure, lots of happy customers revisit to buy accessories, and even more bikes. But my point is if a LBS has to solely rely on sales of bikes (#1), sales of accessories (#2), sales of service related items (#3), the ability to stay in business is tough. Lots of LBS'es are riding the wave right now, but when the surge is over, who remains, which are the "good ones" and how the parent company of the bike manufacturers decide to move forward as a business model is key. A lot of different businesses are realizing that the Covid pandemic has created an entire new way of doing business....some like the new way, others don't. We shall see as it all shakes out.
IMO it seems that Many these days Way more then in the past . Are all about Loving themselves and the Hell With You > So those LBS or whatever it happens to be that still value you stand out more then in teh past. If the dust Settles that probably won't change :

Most today are selfish lovers of Self
 
Yes, this is the strange new world we live in. Although there are many great LBS's, it's like looking for a needle in a haystack. And when found, if everyone else found the very same "good one", then it's stacked wait times, as well as a host of other issues associated with want to use the best available dealer.
There is no magic answer. It seems like as we progress in society there are more of these types of scenarios associated with almost any type of business.
Makes me wonder if it will become the new "norm" after the dust settles.
As long as I (and others) can do the minimal maintenance necessary and only rely on the LBS for those tough to tackle problems (if ever), I think most also should do well.

But shifting gears here a moment; if the sale is made, most people rarely come back unless there is a problem or they cannot do things themselves. Also, if the problem is user created and not due to a manufacturing or warranty issue, then the customer has to pay for the 'fix', right? Sure, lots of happy customers revisit to buy accessories, and even more bikes. But my point is if a LBS has to solely rely on sales of bikes (#1), sales of accessories (#2), sales of service related items (#3), the ability to stay in business is tough. Lots of LBS'es are riding the wave right now, but when the surge is over, who remains, which are the "good ones" and how the parent company of the bike manufacturers decide to move forward as a business model is key. A lot of different businesses are realizing that the Covid pandemic has created an entire new way of doing business....some like the new way, others don't. We shall see as it all shakes out.
HEY did the KLICKFIX UniClip WORK ON YOUR RACK ???
 
I did not try it on my bike, I tried it on my wife's Townie Commute, worked PERFECTLY there. However, going to try it next on my Vado tomorrow, and if it does, will order another one (have a 10% discount card with 1st one, use code VeloFred :)
 
I did not try it on my bike, I tried it on my wife's Townie Commute, worked PERFECTLY there. However, going to try it next on my Vado tomorrow, and if it does, will order another one (have a 10% discount card with 1st one, use code VeloFred :)
Works great for me on teh Vado RackTime : Good Luck. Yeah I had the discount But forgot to use it : That Place seems like they are fast shipping . At least my experience was
 
Was trying to think of a good bike song the other day and came up with this classic. Some of our overseas friends may not be familiar with him. Enjoy.

The first time I heard this song was at the Newport Folk Festival in 1967 when Arlo Guthrie was introduced by Pete Seeger as an important new star. Arlo is Woody Guthrie’s son, so not unknown to that audience.

Arlo started with Alice’s Restaurant and then the Motorcycle song. He made an indelible impression and a great time was had by all.

have some good anachronistic laughs.
 

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My yesterday night ride was infested with "No battery" and "Motor error" messages. The 600 lm headlight was on so the battery contacts should be still clean. Restarting the battery sometimes helped but the situation was improving without my intervention, then the errors were displayed again. I still had some motor support (at the level of Eco) even with the errors. Any ideas?
 
I take it your battery had plenty of charge? Was it secure in the battery cradle on the bike? Sounds like a connectivity issue. Since you got the TCD-W upgrade it upgrades the battery cradle too, wonder if it's not connecting as well?
 
Brendon, as the powerful headlight was operating the whole time, I'd attribute the issue to electronic gremlins... Or, perhaps it is the time to replace the TCD-W battery?
 
The led light can operate on a lot less than the motor. I wouldn't discount low voltage via bad connection or faulty contacts between battery and port. Especially since I think you remove your batteries frequently? One reason I like to leave mine installed, I don't think the method of installation and contact for the electrical connections is the best.
 
Well, I haven't replaced this specific battery for a couple of weeks now because I wanted to equalise the number of charging cycles on both. A lot of moisture in the air recently. Perhaps internal condensation created the bad connection?
 
My yesterday night ride was infested with "No battery" and "Motor error" messages. The 600 lm headlight was on so the battery contacts should be still clean. Restarting the battery sometimes helped but the situation was improving without my intervention, then the errors were displayed again. I still had some motor support (at the level of Eco) even with the errors. Any ideas?
I must remember to look at Mission Control when things like this happens. Since last update my bike has lost motor support three times. The first time was while riding and that time I checked the MC.
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Second and third time was at start up. Display was normal and I changed to Eco before riding off. Did not check MC on these occasions, I just restarted and had better luck.
 
Messages I got from MC recommended restarting the bike after 30 second wait. No idea what happened.
 
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