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Stefan Mikes
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It is enough to weigh both chain types
Why do not we use automotive brakes on our e-bikes? Hello fellow Vado afficianados. First post on the forum. I was curious to know if anyone here has added a dropper post to their Vado. I am 99.99 % (actually, I am more certain than that) certain that the Vado and Tero share the same frame and some of the Tero models come with an internally routed dropper post, so it seems like it is possible to route a cable that way, but I just don't know how hard it will be to fish the housing through the frame as I have not had the displeasure of removing the crankarm and motor yet on this one.
I owned a 2018 Vado for four years and have had it apart (I also worked in a Specialized shop for five years as a mechanic, Shimano certified technician, etc.) and I'm not scared to get into this one, but if anyone has some prior experience with this task, I'm all ears. The housing on an internally routed dropper needs to be able to move back and forth to replace the cable too, so if it's a teardown every time I want to do something like that, maybe I could live with the external cable afterall. I really would prefer to use an internally routed dropper, but have access to both styles and could go externally routed if I have to.
I owned a 2018 Vado for four years and have had it apart (I also worked in a Specialized shop for five years as a mechanic, Shimano certified technician, etc.) and I'm not scared to get into this one, but if anyone has some prior experience with this task, I'm all ears. The housing on an internally routed dropper needs to be able to move back and forth to replace the cable too, so if it's a teardown every time I want to do something like that, maybe I could live with the external cable afterall. I really would prefer to use an internally routed dropper, but have access to both styles and could go externally routed if I have to.
Stefan Mikes
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I've tried that. It was not a good idea, the thing being ugly and little practical, especially hard with fastening of the cable to the hydroformed top tube.
Ever considered a wireless dropper post?
The dropper I have that has the external cable routing has the release mechanism up on the saddle clamp area, so the cable housing has to be able to move up and down as the post raises and lowers. Yours look like the release mechanism is in a fixed position. In spite of it being a PITA to install, it's probably best to go with an internally routed cable system.I've tried that. It was not a good idea, the thing being ugly and little practical, especially hard with fastening of the cable to the hydroformed top tube.
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Ever considered a wireless dropper post?
Was doing a little shopping and found these panniers from Specialized. I remember a while back someone mentioning Spec was going to sell these or something or other. Well here they are, on sale. May be they won't be carrying them in the future. Looks like they will fit a grocery sack. Two on the way
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Allan47.7339
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It's probably for a water bottle cage. (There a lot of different Turbo Vado years and models so don't forget to add the details.)
Stefan Mikes
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Stefan Mikes
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Thank you Rich for the idea! I though those bosses were perhaps for mounting a small triangle frame bag
Rich W.
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When I got that pump and looked at the mount I thought there was something familiar about the spacing and size of the mounting holes.Thank you Rich for the idea! I though those bosses were perhaps for mounting a small triangle frame bag
Stefan Mikes
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My experienced riding buddy says the small pump is the only item fitting that place as the frame bag located there would chafe the rider's thighs.
Rich W.
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On my Tero there is just enough slack in the system that by turning the bars to the right I can remove the dropper and access/remove the cable end. So no internal work necessary. Easy! I also like the wireless dropper idea but the cost seems disproportionate to the value. I guess if there was no other way?
I came across an interesting discussion on motorcycle drive chain and gearing that could relate to the ebike world.
The idea is that the number of gear teeth and chain link matches per revolution should be kept to a minimum to reduce chain wear. This wouldn't work with the cassette as the number of gear teeth is not constant, but the front chain ring and chain link matchup could be manipulated. I put a 48 tooth chain ring and 120 link chain in the equation and every 2 chain revolutions there is a matchup, about the worst relationship available.
The idea is that the lower number of match ups moves the chain and gearing around to even wear amongst all the participants.
Here is the link to play with the calculator. Wether it effects chain and gear wear will go down the rabbit hole with chain lube, suspension seats, and wearing helmets.
www.gearingcommander.com
The idea is that the number of gear teeth and chain link matches per revolution should be kept to a minimum to reduce chain wear. This wouldn't work with the cassette as the number of gear teeth is not constant, but the front chain ring and chain link matchup could be manipulated. I put a 48 tooth chain ring and 120 link chain in the equation and every 2 chain revolutions there is a matchup, about the worst relationship available.
The idea is that the lower number of match ups moves the chain and gearing around to even wear amongst all the participants.
Here is the link to play with the calculator. Wether it effects chain and gear wear will go down the rabbit hole with chain lube, suspension seats, and wearing helmets.
Gearing Commander - Motorcycle Speed and Drive Train Calculator v7
Motorcycle speed and sprocket calculator with bike database for gearing, sprockets, tires and chains of over 1750 bikes. Request yours to be added as well.
www.gearingcommander.com
Stefan Mikes
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You need to find an e-bike yet in which a 120-link chain would be long enough for a 48T chainring, and a regular cassette.
That was just an example, not cast in stone.
Stefan Mikes
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It only happened to me once, after I forgot to re-torque the axle after the wheel removal the night before.
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