Say Hello To Storm
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George S.
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Court,
One line of questioning:
Ask if they will simply be buying bikes for people from a factory in China? Will the bikes just be assembled to the StormCo spec, to ship directly to the customers? If so, do they think they can get the bikes into the US with no warranty or other requirements accruing to StormCo?
Thanks. Really appreciate all the effort, even money, you have put out to bring this phenomenon into focus. You have to think this will change something.
George
PS -- No problem on the ads. Most sites are now outrageous in how they do the promotions.
One line of questioning:
Ask if they will simply be buying bikes for people from a factory in China? Will the bikes just be assembled to the StormCo spec, to ship directly to the customers? If so, do they think they can get the bikes into the US with no warranty or other requirements accruing to StormCo?
Thanks. Really appreciate all the effort, even money, you have put out to bring this phenomenon into focus. You have to think this will change something.
George
PS -- No problem on the ads. Most sites are now outrageous in how they do the promotions.
Ann M.
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@Court, its going to be one heck of a party there, for sure! Specs are important, so too what Storm's plans are long term for the bike line. Does he plan to have dealers or just sell from a website direct from him? How will he handle warranty issues and customer service on this first group of bikes? Thanks for all of your effort, Court!
Gus
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Questions (some of them may need to be sugar coated):
- Why are the orange rims not offered?
- Does he have a business plan or he is making it up as he goes along?
- Is this a 100% China made bike or did be have anything to do with the design or component selection?
- Why does it look exactly like these, is there any connection?
- Warranty and support?
- What is his targetted user for this thing?
- Any techincal questions that confirms or denies he knows anything about eBikes.
- How did he hook up with Agency 2.0?
- Does he feel the negative comments surrounding his campaign are warrented?
- Are they going to drop ship from China? If not, why cant customers pick up their bikes?
- Who is Ryan Mercer?
- Where do babies come from?
- Is his real name 'Ivars Sondors?'
- Does he have any objective data to support his mileage claims?
- Objective data to support 90 minute charge time?
- Are the issues with Prodeco settled?
- What was their reasoning to make it a single speed?
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Gus
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I may get some one on one time with Storm Sonders tomorrow guys, are there any questions you'd like me to ask (politely) or any special tests with the bike? My time will be limited so range test is probably out this time but weight and a closer look at all components seems reasonable. Thanks in advance...
ps. I hope the new ad banners here don't bother you too much and I'm open to feedback as always. I've done my best to keep them muted and out of the way while acknowledging the support that keeps EBR and these forums online from brands I've vetted
IF I were you i'd cover the concerns you had in your video assessment of the Storm. Wonder if Sondors watched it?
Oh and good job Court nabbing an interview!
If I were me, i'd be a lot more interested in the marketing aspects of this brilliant crowdfunding campaign.. I already know the bike would disappoint me and wouldnt be worth upgrading.
Seems pretty laid back.. Miami weather nicer!
Cool that Storm showed up.. Now all those Endless Sphere weenies can kiss his ass! LOL
Good looking bike and the people seem to have enjoyed their short demo ride.
Californians are nice and laid back.
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George S.
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The (archived) live feed is pretty dull. People being told how the throttle works and then whizzing off into very heavy foot traffic at speeds up to 5 mph. I figured they would set up a course. Or let people ride on the sand. Before Storm showed up there were some guys who might have been A2.0 folks.
Ann M.
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Sorry, think there is still a big disconnect on the legal structure of buying/importing items to the US. If Storm Sonders or the Juggernauts owner's are on the docs for product coming from China into a US port, then they are the owners and responsible parties. Any other structure would have to be declared, so again i iterate that the importer is going to assume responsibility for the warranty offered by the manufacturer. That is why they're supposed to have insurance.
Went on a 25 mile ride with this woman who hadn't ridden in a while.. We cruised at 12 mph and her little specialized had some serious shifting problems.. Dealt with it, had a lot of nice stops... At the end of the day she was tired but had a good time.. Not sure what an Ebike would have brought to the trip, except maybe gotten us through it faster.. so what?
For what this Sonders bike is, a beach cruiser, I'm sure it will work.. question is, why do you need an electic beach cruiser with a tiny range?
For what this Sonders bike is, a beach cruiser, I'm sure it will work.. question is, why do you need an electic beach cruiser with a tiny range?
Ann M.
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@JoePah did you watch Court's review with the fat tire bike from a couple of days ago? The real test range with Court riding was less than half what Storm advertised. Packed sand will provide a lot more resistance to tires than pedaling on a nice solid paved surface. Maybe your friend didn't tell you that it was a rough ride for her...with ebike power maybe it could've been a longer or less stressful ride.
George S.
Well-Known Member
I think the deal was they give the money to the Chinese and the Chinese ship to the contributors directly. The only names on the documents will be the 7,000 owners. If I buy a bike off Alibaba, that's what happens. That's what Roshan seemed to say. There will be 7,000 exports to 7,000 importers in the US. No exports to Storm or Biktrix. It will be like 7,000 people bought their bikes and get sent bikes. Why can't they set it up this way? I don't know. I'm going on what has been said.
At the Demo Storm was asked about owners picking them up in LA, and he said something about making a container available somewhere. Very vague.
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biknut
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I can understand his hesitance. He said there were about 350 bikes coming to the area. If you ship all of them they just end up where they're going and that's that.
If you instead bring a container to L.A. for local pick up, where are you going to park the container? Who is going to watch the bikes till 350 people arrive to pick them up? How long will that take? How much will that cost?
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