Wow. You answered my question and with extremely thorough detail. I saw it in the pics! I wanted to target mode percentages as part of my fitness goal setting (ie "do this commute in at least 40% Eco"). Looks like the Nyon would give me the precision I need at least to analyze after the ride and see how close I came to the goal. I know there were a few threads in the forum on how to install/retrofit and possible warranty implications so I will have to go back and read those thoroughly. And the most interesting thing you informed me about are the custom modes. Because I too was thinking there was way too big of a gap between Eco and Tour. I honestly haven't used Turbo much at all. I bet I don't even have 1 mile of 850 miles accumulated in Turbo mode - and part of this I believe is because I don't have enough gear range with the Nuvinci N380. So whereas I don't feel Turbo has much value for me, I could really use a setting 1/2 way between Eco and Tour.
I can give you some more information on installing it and the implications. This will be what I've heard from Bosch dealers.
When I installed my kit, it was quite easy. Because I was worried about messing with the wires, the first thing I did was slide off my Intuvia and slide on the Nyon to see what happened. Everything worked fine, the Intuvia thumb controller still worked for the Nyon, changing assistance levels and scrolling through the different screens. So technically that would be all you needed to do until you had time to attach the new Nyon thumb controller. You just need to unscrew the Intuvia controller wire on the back of the Bosch Holder, and screw in the Nyon controller.
It took me a while to really customize the readouts on the Nyon, I was too lazy and busy for a while. You asking questions about it is what made me do it. I actually like the Nyon even more now, I adjusted the screens and definitely enjoy seeing the gradient, current Wh usage, Avg Wh usage, Torque data, etc.
One important thing about the whole Odometer situation. If you remember from the pictures there was 3 different options for some sort of trip. So my Nyon gives me automatically a trip distance just for that one ride, and then on the home screen it gave an Overall Distance. The weird thing is, this 'Overall Distance' is just like a trip meter. The only difference is that it does not reset each day. I don't know how to reset the value, but I switched the readouts and now the Nyon does in fact display my true Odometer.
I just took a second to look at the bosch connect website real quick, and now I see why they do it that way. My Overall Distance on the front is what they call User total distance. Since the Nyon was newly fitted I guess, it believes you are a new user to an old used bike. So it gives you 'your' odometer, and then the bike's real odometer. I guess they just did this for people buying used bosch bikes.
Anyway, about the warranty. Technically, just placing a Nyon on your bike voids your warranty. This is quite stupid and unfair, but it is simple to get around it. Bosch will never have a clue you used a Nyon, you just need to keep your Intuvia around so in case you ever need a serious service where diagnostics are taken. The Bosch diagnostics will 100% not know that you have used a Nyon in the past. If you plug the Nyon into the diagnostic tool, Bosch will know that the shop plugged in a Nyon, but has no idea who's bike it's on. This I am speaking from out of experience. Of course the shop's don't want Bosch to know they serviced a Nyon, because they are not supposed to. The warranty issue would never be an issue as long as you keep or can get another Intuvia.
Changing the suspension on my bike will certainly void the warranty! Perhaps I will keep the Suntour and Fusion shock just in case
But I was told by multiple people that the odds of a frame cracking or anything are smaller than winning the lottery, even for off road use. My girlfriend has the charger, and the top tube is much thinner. The aluminum on the Delite it much thicker everywhere, but especially the top tube where the Charger is literally half the thickness of the Delite. I assume this is because they wanted to make a super strong front triangle on the bike to support the suspension components. Losing the geometrical advantage of the diamond frame probably required more aluminum to strengthen the front triangle. But really, it looks like double the aluminum was used at least for the top tube.
While I have been learning a lot about bikes recently, I still am an amateur. I am curious what you mean when you say you do not have the gear range for Turbo to be useful. I too find that the high gear range is lacking a bit, and perhaps it's a problem with the whole drivetrain setup, but once the motor cuts out at 28, it is extremely difficult to push it past 32 without gravity. On a perfectly flat road, I've never been able to get passed 32 mph. Riding the bike without assist kind of sucks too. Not just for not having the motor, but the gears are just so weird feeling with no motor. I road for miles and over a bridge with no motor, and it is not fun at all. I was doing 5mph the whole way up the bridge lol.
