Out with the Old School Bike, Ready for a new Ebike

wilsongray19

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Hi everyone,

Looking to gain some sound advice from this community. I've had a Specialized Mountain bike (Hardrock edition) for the longest which I eventually stopped and just let it sit. Trying to get back into now but looking to the Ebike path since I can definitely go a lot further with that in NYC. Budget is approx $700. I'm 6 feet and looking for something durable to last me a few years, with a longer lasting battery pack - foldable would be great too so I can replace that Specialized spot while adding more real estate. Also, I'm located in NYC. Any suggestions?
 
Welcome to the site and this niche of the hobby.
You are fortunate in your location in that there are many retailers that will allow you to see and sit on their bikes. As you may know, fit is important especially if one is not a standard size.
You are unfortunate for your budget. Complete e-bikes start about $1500. Due to the occasional lemons out there that stop mysteriously stranding one, and the inability to test used batteries, used e-bikes are not a bargain. Lithium Ion battery life is 5-8 years in the best cases.
In October I paid $630 for a battery that worked from Luna. Two $300 batteries from Amazon & e-bay didn't work. I got one refund, from Amazon. You only have 31 days to decide something is wrong. You can't ship batteries back, it is illegal. My battery is 17.5 AH 48v and you may not need that much. The average battery that comes with a bike is about 10 AH. Cold weather range is about 1/2 of warm weather. I got about 40 miles out of my battery on a 40 deg day.
In this late day I would not put up with a bike that has rim brakes, since they are fairly useless in the rain. Disk brakes are quite competent in rain. I have the cheaper mechanical disks with small 160 mm rotors which I find have only one disadvantage. With 2500 miles on them, adjusting them tighter to make the thinner pads work right means the force of the spring is higher. However, I don't have to bleed them as I've done hydraulic brakes on cars. My brakes were fine at gross weight 290 lb down a long 10% grade last month.
I use my bike for cardio exercise, using the electricity only if the wind is over 12 mph in my face or the ride is > 25 miles. You can't get much exercise with most mid-drive bikes, your energy spins the motor in PAS level 0. Exceptions are Yamaha and one model of shimano mid drive. You can pedal those. DD hubs are on the cheapest bikes, mine left drags me down about 25% power off over no motor at all. Geared hub drives don't drag at all, they have a one way clutch. Court's reviews on the main site will tell you what motor, brakes, and many other features, are on a bike. In NYC, e-bikes with throttles are still illegal, so watch to avoid that feature. NYC confiscates illegal e-bikes.
Among the cheapest bikes I think are Magnum & Juiced. They have cheap hub drives. 10000 miles may be wear limit on a geared hub drive, but then they only cost $250-500 for a power wheel and most of them for rear fit standard 130 mm brackets.
Happy shopping.
 
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Wilsongrey, you'll either have to spend more money, convert an existing bike, or go for a lower end import.
 
Got it... thank you so much HarryS and esp indianajo - for the insightful and detailed response.. I'll definitely raise my budget and do plenty of more research. Definitely don't want a lower end import.
 
Nothing wrong with lower end bikes, but you're on your own when they don't run since there's no shop to support you. What we perceive as low end is probably the mass market bike in China, ridden by tens of thousands of people, and I'm sure there's someone on every block that has parts/skills to replace whatever.

Your Specialized looks like a nice bike. Too nice to convert.
 
Conversions can ruin the character of a really nice bike. It's the added weight, usually an ugly wart of a battery, sometimes an even uglier controller box, often a rats nest of cables, and a busier handlebar arrangement.

In some cases, like with a very light carbon bike, conversion compromises the strength. An aluminum bike may not be able to handle the added stress too, depending on size of motor and where it's located.

Sure, it can be done. Takes more planning.
 
I had a Specialized Hardrock. Prior to my current Juiced Bikes CrossCurrent S, it was my favorite bike ever. Welcome to ebikes and I hope we hear more from you. There's an ebike shop called Propel in Brooklyn. The owner has been featured in a number of video reviews and often comments on this forum. Knowledgeable guy with a lot of different models on the shop floor. Might be worth checking it out, taking some test rides, etc.
 
I had a Specialized Hardrock. Prior to my current Juiced Bikes CrossCurrent S, it was my favorite bike ever. Welcome to ebikes and I hope we hear more from you. There's an ebike shop called Propel in Brooklyn. The owner has been featured in a number of video reviews and often comments on this forum. Knowledgeable guy with a lot of different models on the shop floor. Might be worth checking it out, taking some test rides, etc.
Bruce - take it you like the cross current S then? I’m thinking of getting one when they are back in stock in a couple weeks...what do you like about it? What don’t you?
 
Bruce - take it you like the cross current S then? I’m thinking of getting one when they are back in stock in a couple weeks...what do you like about it? What don’t you?
I can't think of anything I don't like about it.

I've got to say that if I were buying today, I would have to go with the CCX. 52 volt battery, 25 amp controller (vs. 20 A), and some updates to the firmware that are really worthwhile.

Here's the thing: the CCS is a fine bike and the CCX is even finer. My guess is that sales of the CCS will fall off and it will eventually be discontinued. Just like the CrossCurrent Air is no longer available.
 
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