Hi all,
Me again.
I need to clarify some of the aforementioned data that I relayed to viewers in this post. I was hoping that someone would make a “reply” so that I could then add this reply to the post. Seems like that's not gonna happen anytime soon, so here goes as a stand alone addition.
First of all, I believe the viewer/reader will come to the conclusion that, if buying/using the most excellent
SHINKO(brand) 241(model) 16”x3”(size) motorcycle tire on your LECTRIC (or any other ebike using 20”x4” fat tires), you
must also buy a rather expensive motorcycle tire inner tube. That item is
not true. I used the original 20”x4” bicycle/ebike inner tubes from mile 0(zero) on my ARIEL RIDER X52 ebikeup thru mile 7,657.
However, the motorcycle inner tube, if purchased,
MUST be size 2.75-3.00x 16” and it needs to be equipped with the TR6 style of schrader valve stem. Not a larger tube diameter size.. Not a smaller size.. ONLY THAT SIZE/CONFIGURATION. Why? Because motorcycle inner tubes are not the same creature as bicycle inner tubes. For instance, if given the choice when building a homemade slingshot, you WOULD use a bicycle inner tube as the stretchy straps -- you would NOT use a motorcycle inner tube. Just sayin'.
I own a 2021 ARIEL RIDER X52 ebike beast. This bike is a MoPed style pocket rocket equipped with a 1,000+watt rear hub motor and has a top speed of 32+ mph. It also uses (as standard equipment) 20”x4” bicycle/ebike tires, along with stock 20”x4” bicycle inner tubes.
I have 9+threads posted on the ARIEL RIDER EBR forum. Whenever I do a thread posting on EBR, my usual modus operandi is to include “hyper-links”, as needed. However, on this posting I will, for the most part, just go ahead and do “copy&paste” items from my 9+ threads over on the ARIEL RIDER forum. That will save you viewers from having to chase “info” all over the site.
Like you, I had a hard time wrapping my head around the very DIFFERENT sizing methods of tires/tubes for motorcycles, as opposed to bicycles/ebike. However, after much therapy, and a visit to a local motorcycle shop for some clarifications, I finally Saw The Light. YaHoo!! My ebiking will never be the same.
From the X52 #5 thread:
tire pressure: I recently went out for my initial ride in 6” of fresh snow a few weeks ago. The SHINKO 244 motorcycle tire psi was 14.. The X52 performed flawlessly. After returning back to the condo, I decided that reducing the pressure down to 8psi would
really be traction-worthy. Big Mistake!! At one point the wheel /motor was spinning like a mutha.. The tire, however, was not rotating one iota. I had ripped the valve stem right off the inner tube. Luckily I live right next to a city park that has a open area the size of 5 football fields to play on. So, I only had to walk/push the 80+pound beast 200 yards instead of 10 miles (if I would have decided to do an extended out-an-back route).
In regards to the X52 tire situation: I'm gonna do a stand-alone thread on that item in a month or so.
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From the X52 #6 thread:
Another interesting winter riding combo. How about some of these items to snazz up your riding adventures (think frozen lakes, etc). Why pay $100-$200 per studded tire when you can go this route instead?? Ice traction screws
https://www.denniskirk.com/kold-kut...ice-screws-kk038-8-250.p080913.prd/080913.sku mounted on a pair of these tires (size 3.00-16)
https://www.chapmoto.com/shinko-244-series-dual-sport-front-rear-tire.html Or these puppies (also size 3.00-16)
https://www.chapmoto.com/shinko-sr241-series-dual-sport-front-rear-tire.html .. You be stylin', fer sure.
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From X52 #7 thread:
In the long run, it is better for me to just go ahead and “link” the #7 thread posting in it's entirety. If you were to go over to the ArielRider forum and actually read/suffer through my other six X52 threads posted there, you will find that #7 is the first one to actually address/focus on the SHINKO 244 and/or SHINKO 241 tires in size 16”x3”. So, here is the X52's #7 link. Enjoy the read/info:
https://electricbikereview.com/forums/threads/7-x52-at-day-365-and-mileage-7-657.50475/
What I don't really address in that long-winded #7 posting (kinda like this posting) is that while using the motorcycle tires since mile 0(zero), I was also using the ebikes
original 20”x4” BICYCLE/EBIKE inner tubes. My bad.
As far as potential future ebike purchases are concerned, I will only consider those equipped with the ebike/bicycle 20” fat tire setup. I will then, as I did with my 2021 ArielRider X52, install motorcycle tires/inner tubes /slime at mile 0(zero). That equates to “time riding”, not “time fixing flats” .
In closing, The 2023 LECTRIC XPEDITION cargo ebike is the absolute IDEAL ebike to purchase. The dang thing , with its sub $1,800 price point, awesome 750+watt rear hub motor, and dual battery option, does it all. Equip it with this SHINKO tire/inner tube/SLIME combo, and you will be stylin' big time (and flat-free). Back in 2021, when I bought the X52, if I had the choice of the X52 or the (2023)LECTRIC XPEDTION, the
XPEDITION would have been the winner hands down. Granted, the X52 has a 5mph higher top speed. However, that “advantage” only goes so far in the overall ebike situation.
The rest of the LECTRIC 20” tire ebike line can get along just fine and dandy by using the SHINKO/original 20” ebike inner tube/slime combo. Though, in my humble opinion, I'd go ahead install the motorcycle inner tube on the heavier, more complex,
rear wheel/tire setup. Save that spare lightweight ebike tube to use on the front end.
Sorry about the rambling on, but that's my never ending cross to bear.