Need some help deciding, i deliver newspaper Runner or Legion Ryze

[Elieg22]

I deliver newspaper for now 2 years in the morning varying between 45-70 km distance per day.

Would it be dumb to do this sometimes on an Ebike
. I did it once for a few days in rollerblades was pretty long and a little tyring after 3 days in a row...

Im new in the Ebike world ,when i typed Ebike on YouTube i started to learn about stuff.

now i called yesterday 3 brands: Rad, Volt and Rize
-someone mentionned the minis are best for deliverys, others said i didnt need a fat bike, since some pizza people deliver with regular ebikes.

at first my main contenders where
the Rize- Legion 2020

and
Radrunner with a couple of accessory..

+ Rize is i can adjust top speed to 45 kph without buying the display (unlike the radrunner), it has hydraulics , it allready has a rack and a bigger seat.
- seller told me the sitting position wont be very good for delivery since its not very upright more leaning forward type

+ for the runner : stepthru (handy to get out of my bike to throw the newspaper on the doors), it seems a little bigger and more comfortable, sitting position seems adequate.
- i have to buy tons of accesory to make it viable and equal to the Rize.

Other options would have been:

use a foldable and put it in my car (take it out and do small sections each time)
However i measured my Mazda back seat and seems like the foldables will fit tightly so i dont want to have a horrible time taking the bike in and out...


Any other brands or bike suggestion for this type of activity and what bike between both mentionned would be better suited for this job ...

Sorry i know there are many spelling mistakes (too tired since i work in morning and dont sleep much hehe)

im 5 ft 11, 180 pounds

max weight load could approach 300 pounds

 

[onlineaddy]

Look into cargo bikes:
Search (cargo)

 

[Dewey]

300lb just for the load or including your 180lb rider weight? Either way, carrying newspapers high up on a rack isn't a great idea as the bike will topple (I used to deliver newspapers as a boy). Cargo box ebikes are expensive so to keep the load low and not spend so much money consider buying an ebike you can afford, maybe a spare battery, and tow a bicycle cargo trailer such as the Wike flatbed (125lb), Carry Freedom Y (200lb), Surly Bill (300lb), or Rambo (300lb) trailers.

 

[Elieg22]

300lb just for the load or including your 180lb rider weight? Either way, carrying newspapers high up on a rack isn't a great idea as the bike will topple (I used to deliver newspapers as a boy). cargo box ebikes are expensive so to keep the load low and not spend so much money consider buying an ebike you can afford, maybe a spare battery, and tow a bicycle cargo trailer such as the Wike (125lb), Carry Freedom (200lb), Surly Bill (300lb), or Rambo (300lb) trailers.

no , im 180 =) ,

ideally i could try to leave my bike at a safe place there and lock it and carry small amounts come back to a drop point to resupply and so fort...
still afraid it could get stolen...

you have a good idea , but im not sure if this would slow down the bike and lower the manovrability by alot.

Im also thinking a foldable bike to put inside the backseat of my car, unfold it at the places i want to do like 40-50 nespaper..

I carry 40-50 newspaper in my back pacck while rollerblading with no problems , so for the ebike 125 could be ok i guess, but 200 not sure...hehe

 

[indianajo]

Couldn't find a review of rize legion on site. The radrunner has fat tires with low pressure, better check the max load on that one.
I carry 320 lb gross on my bodaboda left. That in the picture is the small drop frame for short people. Big advantage of yubabikes, they have bosses in the frame to hang a front basket that doesn't swing with the wheel. The mondo has a 20" back wheel if you want to carry the load lower. Stretch frame you won't be able to throw from the back basket like a kid's schwinn of 1955. But you could transfer bundles to the front. Be sure to buy the double leg stand, it helps loading.
I run 2.1" tires at 55 psi, when the bike shop sold me a tire limited to 40 psi I hit the rim several times before I got home and discarded it.
Other heavy load bikes that aren't stretch frame are surly, the trucker models. Those are steel frames, not aluminum. They have a big dummy electric stretch frame, but that would be awfully heavy.
Other moderate cost cargo bikes are xtracycle, pedego stretch, tern gsd, radwagon. Read the brand specific "known problems" threads, some brands have quite a number of entries. "Bargain" can mean frequent spoke tightening to maintain round wheels, or kiddie grade shifters that require frequent adjustment, or other maintenance problems. I've just completed 5000 miles on my yubabike, 1 shifter stop adjustment, 1 pair brake shoes, 2 motor cover tightenings, 1 shifter cable broke. Chain is worn 100% now, going to replace tomorrow. No spoke adjustments.

 

[Elieg22]

Couldn't find a review of rize legion on site. The radrunner has fat tires with low pressure, better check the max load on that one.
I carry 320 lb gross on my bodaboda left. That in the picture is the small drop frame for short people. Big advantage of yubabikes, they have bosses in the frame to hang a front basket that doesn't swing with the wheel. The mondo has a 20" back wheel if you want to carry the load lower. Stretch frame you won't be able to throw from the back basket like a kid's schwinn of 1955. But you could transfer bundles to the front. Be sure to buy the double leg stand, it helps loading.
I run 2.1" tires at 55 psi, when the bike shop sold me a tire limited to 40 psi I hit the rim several times before I got home and discarded it.
Other heavy load bikes that aren't stretch frame are surly, the trucker models. Those are steel frames, not aluminum. They have a big dummy electric stretch frame, but that would be awfully heavy.
Other moderate cost cargo bikes are xtracycle, pedego stretch, tern gsd, radwagon. Read the brand specific "known problems" threads, some brands have quite a number of entries. "Bargain" can mean frequent spoke tightening to maintain round wheels, or kiddie grade shifters that require frequent adjustment, or other maintenance problems. I've just completed 5000 miles on my yubabike, 1 shifter stop adjustment, 1 pair brake shoes, 2 motor cover tightenings, 1 shifter cable broke. Chain is worn 100% now, going to replace tomorrow. No spoke adjustments.

This bike would 100% work yes , for the kind of job i do ...However i want a bike i can also use for fun mountain , etc..and style is important . Look at pictures in the old days people with non electric bike good do it , so im thinking any ebike even not cargo could possibly be used..if i use a little bit of imagination and creativity with my bag placements etc...

Cargo are definatly great but if im gonna buy only 1 bike id rather have it non cargo , but this is starting to influence me and i actuallt might consider a cargo seeing how its build and practical!

 

[Dewey]

this is starting to influence me and i actually might consider a cargo seeing how its build and practical!

@indianajo makes a good call on Yuba bikes, which have lots of useful accessories. Their Mundo model was recently replaced with a new Kombi model that has a lower stand over height and smaller 24" wheels, for a lower center of gravity. At $999 it's a relatively inexpensive cargo pedal bike to convert with a kit motor, add the side running boards ($99) and 2-Go cargo bags ($200) plus the cost of a kit motor and battery (say $1,200). For carrying newspapers I like how Yuba's 2-Go cargo bags are secured by bolts to the top and sides of the rack and can sit on the running boards to support the extra weight of heavy paper. You can buy Yuba bikes at REI so you can save a little on the cost of the bike if you open an REI Co-op account and apply for the REI credit card to pay for it, should save maybe 15% of $999 ($150), so if you convert the bike to electric yourself you're looking at paying $2,350.

If you want to pay less, you might also consider converting the Mongoose Envoy, which is $750 including side running boards and bags, add a high-torque geared kit motor like a BBSHD or MAC, and battery, and you're looking at paying $1,950. The Envoy is rated to carry 25lb in each side bag plus 90lb on top of the rack so you could add a Delivery box or Wald delivery basket, although that might compromise access to the top-loading side bags. Cheaper pre-built longtail cargo e-bikes using low-torque direct-drive motors include the Eunorau cargo, Radwagon, and Blix Packa, those may or may not work depending on how steep are the hills around the area where you will be carrying newspapers. A Radwagon ($1,500) with the optional Ballard bags ($240 for two) is likely the cheapest.