Looking for an e-bike with the following:

[ChicagoPhil]

Hi All, looking for a hybrid e-bike with the following features:
Minimum 750w nominal, 1000w preferred
Torque sensor a must
Mid Drive (OR belt drive with hub CVT if that's possible
Front shocks
Throttle
Unlocked for off-road
Should be able to pull a doggie trailer
And, I'd like all that for <3k.
Is this a pipe dream, or is there a bike that will fit this bill?
Thanks, all!

 

[stompandgo]

1000w mid drive motors are few and far between and tend to be found in all out race bikes and cargo bikes, not hybrids. 600w-750w are much more common. My first recommendation would be the Velotric Discover 2 $1,999. These are nicely made bikes for the money. If you want a top brand bike and can deal with a 600w Bosch drive unit, look at the Cannondale Tesoro X1/X2/X3 series with the mid drives ($2,400-$2,999). I own a Neo X Speed, and the build quality is superb.

No matter what you end up with, I suggest that you buy through a dealer, not direct. The price is the same, and your connection with the dealer will pay off down the road.

 

[Gionnirocket]

A little bit more than you wanted to spend... But it checks the boxes and is feature packed.

Zen Photon Long Range Electric Bike

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[scottsdalecommuter]

i think that's reasonable, seems the prices are coming down pretty nice on the e-bikes right now especially in that price range. that Velotric Discover 2 looks pretty good, i could buy that one, i've been riding my current commuter e-bike (Aventon Pace 500) for 4 years or so and kind of ready for something new. torque sensor/front shocks would be the 2 features i would have got if i got a do-over.

 

[MrHyak]

1000w mid drive motors are few and far between and tend to be found in all out race bikes and cargo bikes, not hybrids. 600w-750w are much more common. My first recommendation would be the Velotric Discover 2 $1,999. These are nicely made bikes for the money. If you want a top brand bike and can deal with a 600w Bosch drive unit, look at the Cannondale Tesoro X1/X2/X3 series with the mid drives ($2,400-$2,999). I own a Neo X Speed, and the build quality is superb.

No matter what you end up with, I suggest that you buy through a dealer, not direct. The price is the same, and your connection with the dealer will pay off down the road

I ride with a 1000w mid drive bafang with 160 nm of torque. I ride fat tire bikes because I like to go off road, mud and snow!

 

[stompandgo]

Makes sense. Those fat tire bikes need a lot of power. I would not call them a hybrid, though.

 

[MrHyak]

Makes sense. Those fat tire bikes need a lot of power. I would not call them a hybrid, though.

Never said it was, but it is mid drive 1000w and my comment was on that part.

 

[Gionnirocket]

i think that's reasonable, seems the prices are coming down pretty nice on the e-bikes right now especially in that price range. that Velotric Discover 2 looks pretty good, i could buy that one, i've been riding my current commuter e-bike (Aventon Pace 500) for 4 years or so and kind of ready for something new. torque sensor/front shocks would be the 2 features i would have got if i got a do-over.

The Velotric is a very nice bike but it leaves your wishlist with holes in it.
No experience with the bike but hub drives are typically lacking when it comes to climbing/pulling and natural feel. Things are developing so these concerns may be not be with the latest motors/controllers.
That said... Personally if I was looking to upgrade, I'd be looking at mid_drives.
ymmv

 

[alihyder]

You’re not too far off, getting most of what you want under $3K is tough, but possible. A 750W or even 1000W motor with a torque sensor, throttle, front shocks, and trailer-pulling power can be found, especially with brands like Riding Times, Ride1Up, or Biktrix. Mid-drive motors with torque sensors are out there, but adding a belt drive with a CVT hub at this price is rare. You might have to choose between mid-drive or belt/CVT. Still, with some smart shopping or a few upgrades later, you can get close to your dream setup.