Light vs regular full suspension ebikes

Over the weekend, I took a Ramblas ADV out for a spin to see what its motor was all about.

I was genuinely surprised. The motor felt almost as smooth as the updated 100Nm Bosch CX, and even seemed a bit more powerful. The only noticeable difference was a slight sensation of the internal gears turning when the assistance was off. It’s impressive that a relatively new bike company has managed to design an in-house motor that can so easily rival Bosch.
 
Recently, I’ve been thinking about getting another full suspension eMTB. Some of the newer models I’ve seen look really appealing. Although the prices seems to have increased a lot, the average offering seems to come with higher end components and I see a lot of CF frames.

While researching more traditional full powered eMTBs like those with Bosch CX(gen 5 seems decent) or Shimano EP8/EP801(old but there are a few good deals on these) motors, I realized there’s now a growing category of lighter eMTBs. These bikes pair less powerful motors with carbon frames and seem to offer a very different riding experience.

Several of the models I looked at use TQ HPR50 motors. They’re very light and visually, almost indistinguishable from regular mtbs. The trek I saw took me a moment before realizing that it was an electric bike. I’m curious to hear your opinion on this type of bikes compared to the regular ones.

I would be interested in something I can easily hop on, ride leisurely on hills, light trails, and that feels closer to a regular bike especially when the motor is turned off. Additionally, many of the trails in my area have a no–e-bike policy. I was wondering whether riding a TQ50 or similar light eMTB with the motor turned off would generally be acceptable on those trails.
don't ask.don't tell,there will always be some old school jerk you cant reason with safeguarding the "masters trail".
 
I tried the Avinox, and now I understand why the industry seems to be in panic mode.
That motor is incredibly powerful in Turbo, honestly, more than I would ever need yet it remains very controllable. While I don’t require that much power, it’s reassuring to know it’s there when you want it. The adjustability is excellent as well. What really stands out is that even with an 800Wh battery, the bike still feels light. It makes me question the point of lower-powered options with smaller batteries when something like this exists.
I might wait a bit longer to see the new Avinox system appear on bikes from other brands.
It also looks like Specialized has just released an update to bring their power output to Avinox levels. Apparently, you can run their bikes with only a small range extender, which should significantly reduce the overall weight. It’s just unfortunate that their pricing starts quite high.
This is very interesting, as someone who is always looking for light bikes. Technology is each day closer and closer to that point where they can satisfy needs that seemed incompatible before
 
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