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Shradda ...
Welcome to the EBR Forum - and to those paying homage to Riese & Müller.

Some years ago, I took my Rohloff-equipped folder to New Zealand to ride some of their mountainous terrain. My little bike had even lower gearing than the R&M Homage GX Rohloff. On the steepest slopes, I did not use its #1 gear which was so low that I was in danger fear of toppling over through lack of momentum.

Add the power assist and the easy-off seating position of the Homage, and your >30% incline is doable (but I'll pass). Surely, there is no way that any ebike can "zoom" up a >30% hill. To get you home, the Homage GX Rohloff will be as close to perfect as an ebike can be.
... David
Thanks David!
 
Greetings.

To date, what people in your situation have done is purchase the Performance CX (higher torque, limited to 20 mph) model for the hill-climbing and de-restrict (the speed cap) via “dongles,” purchased (mostly) from third parties in Germany. This is also referred to as tuning. You can use the search function for this site to find multiple threads on the topic.

However, it has come to light recently that In the next firmware update, Bosch has implemented detection of tuning/derestriction, presumably to void warranties.

I don’t think anyone here has the details on how this will play out. I will say that I am in your situation. I do a lot of touring and need the HS to outrun farm dogs, for example, and need the extra torque for climbing. The extra torque btw, is about 20% (63 Nm vs 75 Nm). I’d decided to replace my HS with a CX until I heard about this firmware development. For this and some other reasons, I am forgoing a 2019 purchase, but it sounds like you are not in a “wait and see” position.

Another factor is which drivetrain you choose. Which model is your current loaner? For example, some riders here have had difficulty with steep hills and the HS/NuVinci combination. Ideally, you should try to match a drivetrain option to a HS model to see if you conquer the steep sections of your ride. Then you won’t have to worry about the whole CX vs HS engine option. Assuming that your dealer is New Wheel, I imagine that it shouldn’t be a problem to test ride derailleur and Rohloff drivetrain options with a HS motor. Warning: the Rohloff option is spendy.

One battery — given the topography you describe, I’d expect about 40 miles assuming the steep sections are fairly short bursts — perhaps less if you do a lot of hill climbing. Given that you’re riding a Homage right now, you are probably in the best position to estimate what to expect depending on your daily commute.
Shradda ...
Welcome to the EBR Forum - and to those paying homage to Riese & Müller.

Some years ago, I took my Rohloff-equipped folder to New Zealand to ride some of their mountainous terrain. My little bike had even lower gearing than the R&M Homage GX Rohloff. On the steepest slopes, I did not use its #1 gear which was so low that I was in danger fear of toppling over through lack of momentum.

Add the power assist and the easy-off seating position of the Homage, and your >30% incline is doable (but I'll pass). Surely, there is no way that any ebike can "zoom" up a >30% hill. To get you home, the Homage GX Rohloff will be as close to perfect as an ebike can be.
... David
Thanks, makes sense. I was in fantasy land with expectations about the hill.
 
[QUOTE="Shradda, post: 161018, member: 20762] But like most humans I wanted everything---particularly with such a costly bike.

Regarding the 3x% climb — how did you manage on your Kalkhoff? I demo’d an Integrale w/ belt at the 2016 DC expo. I can’t imagine that your Kalkhoff would outperform your loaner bike?[/QUOTE]
I just became accustomed to climbing that hill in the Kalkhoff. Some days were easier than others---actually depending more on my mood, than physical strength. I really wanted something to make the hills easier, and heard a lot of confirmation that the new Homage would demolish the hill----but the grunt/work/effort is still there!
 
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