Yep - quite a few 'less than thrilled' with WW as sole US distributor.
I'm not convinced there's any 'value add' by them, as have seen people who were able to order a motor/controller wait over a year and numerous waiting for Innotrace account activation, (unique to Innotrace) programming cable, etc. meanwhile, or EU friends seem to have a lot quicker and saner service ordering direct from Innotrace.
Yeah, unfortunately it's down to direct confirmation, with the exception of the Luna Z1, as they (rightly IMO) call out specifically as part of the value the fact they ship with UART motors.
I know I had asked at initial Monte Capro announcement if it was UART or CANBUS and was told CANBUS only, and others since have asked. Guessing their entire line of Ultra bikes is now CANBUS, but always good to check/confirm with the vendor.
The weird bit is that meanwhile, the M500/510 firmware is reasonably decent IMO from Bafang. I think it's possible newer M600 firmware from them may have finally become at least reasonably good. The VESC and other more advanced controllers are certainly able to be more efficient (and configurable), yet they seem to continue to have an utter mess on default Ultra firmware. Don't care, don't have the skills - don't know, but it's not impressive.
I think Dengfu also announced they have a handful of UART Ultras available for purchase recently. Still can't tell 'for real' if UART motors are still being manufactured in reality or if it's now really down to NOS/New Old Stock or what.
Apparently there's also now an M610 out or coming...curious as to differences there (Weapon X claim, haven't seen details)... Right now I'm mostly feeling the M600 combination of efficiency and 'power enough' has just removed the 'need' for an Ultra powered bike. Might be convinced otherwise in the future, e.g. a lighter Ultra with improved controller (not marked up from WW) like a VESC, at a reasonable-ish price...maybe.
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