Hub drive vs mid drive, round 2.

[tomjasz]

When you say 'crank forward' are you talking about an extreme example of this such as Rans bikes or something milder like Electra Townie?

Yeah, Electra Townie, Trek Pure, KHS Smoothie, but I’m not a Rans fan. Step through version make outstanding old fart rides. (The newer little Bafang hub drives make incredibly stealthy rides)