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JeremyTheCat

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Hi all,

I've been a lurker, now a member.

I have been playing with motorbikes/bikes for decades, decided it's time to electrify.

I'm keen to DIY - battery pack, controller, etc. using an off-the shelf motor.

Keep it rubber-side down, folks.
 
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Jeremy,
As I can hear from other New Zealanders, your country is an a bike paradise, with good availability of American specification manufactured e-bikes. Are you fond of going the DIY route?
 
Welcome to EBR Jeremy, Converted in Lower Hutt are Bafang dealers and supply Bafang and TruckRun motors and accessories from quality DIY ebike suppliers like Lekkie to bike shops across New Zealand. What type of terrain do you ride on? I have a 36v Bafang BBS01 I've installed on two pedal bikes to help me ride on paved trails and street bike lanes to ride home from work uphill from the Potomac river in Washington, DC in the US.
 
Jeremy,
As I can hear from other New Zealanders, your country is an a bike paradise, with good availability of American specification manufactured e-bikes. Are you fond of going the DIY route?
No idea what ‘American specification’ is.
My shits all metric.

There’s no way in hell I’m dropping $5k on a bike. I can buy a leaf for that price.
 
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Welcome to EBR Jeremy, Converted in Lower Hutt are Bafang dealers and supply Bafang and TruckRun motors and accessories from quality DIY ebike suppliers like Lekkie to bike shops across New Zealand. What type of terrain do you ride on? I have a 36v Bafang BBS01 I've installed on two pedal bikes to help me ride on paved trails and street bike lanes to ride home from work uphill from the Potomac river in Washington, DC in the US.
If I’m buying parts it’s not from some dudes in the Hutt with 100% markup on what I can buy direct.

Thanks for the unasked-for sponsored talk.
 
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The first time I ever wrote an introductory on a forum and I get some dude writing scare stories about the hellhole he lives in, another dude trying to sell me s*it through some affiliate links, another asking if I’m ‘fond’ of diy, when I thought I made it clear that diy was the only thing I was interested in.

It’s like some weird swingers club in here, but for dudes.

Seriously reconsidering my life choices right now.
 
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If I’m buying parts it’s not from some dudes in the Hutt with 100% markup on what I can buy direct.

Thanks for the unasked-for sponsored talk
Eh? I just googled Bafang suppliers in NZ and found one that supplies Blackwell & Sons who are a good bike shop and carry Lekkie who are a great local brand. EM3EV is a good Bafang supplier if you prefer to buy direct from China, don’t take my word for it look up their reputation here and on Endless Sphere
 
Eh? I just googled Bafang suppliers in NZ and found one that supplies Blackwell & Sons who are a good bike shop and carry Lekkie who are a great local brand. EM3EV is a good Bafang supplier if you prefer to buy direct from China, don’t take my word for it look up their reputation here and on Endless Sphere
It’s almost like you think I am unable to shop.
Damn, the condescension is strong with you.
 
Use the Chinese, then.
*American exceptionalism enters the chat*

Dude, could your skin be any thinner? I’m from a euro-aligned country but you think not knowing what ‘American specification’ is is a slight to your fragile manhood?

Take a chill pill, Karen.
 
Wow, this certainly descended some. It reinforces the old adage of ‘I would never join any club that would have me as a member’

Out of this - you girls can fluff each other’s skirts and whatever it is you do to keep hard, I’m off to build s*it
 
Greetings from Oregon, USA!

You just have to go for it. I did the TSDZ2 thing for 4 yrs. and it worked fine, fairly easy to convert to a standard bb, Open Source Firmware option and a decent PAS. Throttle optional. Biggest issue with the kit mid drives is dialing in the chainline and forget about Q factor...Seems like better luck performance with the 21700 cell batteries I have than the 18650 ones.

If ordering in parts if AliExpress works there that is a good source of supply. Just takes a bit to get there but I have found it to be reliable at least. Pretty much the same game as any sport though these days whatever it is is online and the advice on how to do/install it is too.

That said if your desire is more towards some more power you can look into a BBSHD. Very powerful motor, programmable but cadence sensing and/or throttle only. More like 450 class....

Sorry about the reception. Using the ignore button cuts down on the chatter I find.
 
Jeremy: It all seems to be down to your lack of experience with e-bikes. "American specification" means Class 1 and Class 3. Both classes are limited to 750 W of motor power; Class 1 is limited to 20 mph/32 kph (typically, e-MTBs) while Class 3 is limited to 28 mph/45 kph. New Zealand allows up to 300 W but there is no limit on the speed in your country. (We are not that lucky in Europe, as a "Euro e-bike" means 250 W nominal, 25 km/h. We also can ride 45 km/h "mopeds" under certain conditions in Europe).

Having said the above, I need to note that four biggest e-bike brands (Specialized, Trek, Giant and Cannondale) as well as expensive -- but popular in NZ -- Riese & Muller offer 250 W nominal mid-drive e-bikes that are available as Class 1 or Class 3. Meaning, a selection of a 28 mph/45 kph mid-drive 250 W e-bike of Class 3 is a popular NZ choice.

Just slapping a Chinese motor, battery, controller and display onto a traditional e-bike is doable. My earlier question was simply whether you had ever considered buying a good manufactured e-bike, taking into account how liberal the NZ e-bike law was? An e-bike that was designed as an e-bike from the scratch? With safe and nicely integrated battery, classy motor, and excellent electronics? With hydraulic disc brakes and adequate drivetrain? With ride comfort and safety in the first place? There are several other Kiwis in these Forums, and you could just ask them.

I asked my question because I had considered a conversion of my existing traditional bike myself. Luckily, I learned about the benefits of manufactured e-bikes early enough.
 
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