I am torn between a Gazelle Ultimate T10 and Ultimate C380 and am seeking advice from the group. I’m told the T10’s gears are more efficient and lighter than the C380, and that it’s easier to change a tire, etc. should you get a flat. I also prefer the T10’s white color compared to C380’s blue and olive colors (2021)–neutral and highly visible. However, the variable shifting and low maintenance carbon belt is very attractive as I live in a very hilly part of the Driftless region of Minnesota-Wisconsin where hills are steep and numerous (100s of miles radius). Snow, rain, salt, gravel…. are all daily realities. I’m also in Minneapolis frequently in a highly urban area (60 miles away). What’s your advice?....this was Court's advice on the thread of his review of the C380, "Hi Craig! Your points about the snow, rain, salt, and gravel did make me lean towards the belt drive and internally geared hub. Hopefully others will chime in here, but you could post the same comment in the EBR forums for Gazelle and might get more engagement 
While heavier, slower to shift, and generally less efficient, the internally geared hub can be durable and offer that shift at standstill feature, as long as you aren’t applying too much pressure when doing so. If you do shift under too much load, you’ll hear it clicking a lot. In that case, just ease off a bit and try not to let the motor activate, this will let the gear settle. Or, you can lift the rear wheel or tip the bike left onto the kickstand and then cycle it gently to apply the shift, and then hop on and continue pedaling again (much as you’d have to do with a traditional chain and cassette, which is my overall preference for all occasions due to easy maintenance, easier shifting, and reduced weight). Hope this helps "... sounds like he recommends the T10. FYI, I like the T10+ but I don't like there isn't a step-through option. The mid-step is still really hard to step over at 5'11" on a large (57) frame and the medium (53) felt too small for me. I hear there is a C380+ coming out at some point. I'm also told that if you're looking for exercise, it's better to stick with the non+ as you have to work a little harder. I'd appreciate your experiences, thoughts and opinions.Thank you!
While heavier, slower to shift, and generally less efficient, the internally geared hub can be durable and offer that shift at standstill feature, as long as you aren’t applying too much pressure when doing so. If you do shift under too much load, you’ll hear it clicking a lot. In that case, just ease off a bit and try not to let the motor activate, this will let the gear settle. Or, you can lift the rear wheel or tip the bike left onto the kickstand and then cycle it gently to apply the shift, and then hop on and continue pedaling again (much as you’d have to do with a traditional chain and cassette, which is my overall preference for all occasions due to easy maintenance, easier shifting, and reduced weight). Hope this helps "... sounds like he recommends the T10. FYI, I like the T10+ but I don't like there isn't a step-through option. The mid-step is still really hard to step over at 5'11" on a large (57) frame and the medium (53) felt too small for me. I hear there is a C380+ coming out at some point. I'm also told that if you're looking for exercise, it's better to stick with the non+ as you have to work a little harder. I'd appreciate your experiences, thoughts and opinions.Thank you!
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