Cruiser/Upright with Torque Sensor?

[couchguydave]

Hey everyone. Looking for a Cruiser or upright bike under or around $1800.
Preferably with rear rack and lights (headlight and tail)
500+ watt

Purchased a Radcity Step-Thru for my wife and we love it but I want the responsiveness of the JUMP e-bike rentals from Uber (where can i just buy one already!!). I have been looking for a while and done a lot of research.

I had heard that the Surface 604 Rook/Colt were very responsive but I have heard from the Surface rep that they don't make the Rook/Colt with a torque sensor currently... (they plan on putting torque sensors back in for Rook/Colt 2019 ver 2.0 in the latter half of the year near August), and they will be doing away with the spindle torque sensor on the Shred/Boar and replacing it with the rear dropout torque sensor popular with other brands like Juiced as the spindle sensor is too difficult to replace if it fails.

Juiced bikes have the rear dropout torque sensor but in the most recent review from EBR they don't look that responsive.

Am I totally overlooking something out there or does what I want not exist? Is there a way to purchase a JUMP bike from Uber? (I wish i was joking)

 

[Ravi Kempaiah]

uiced bikes have the rear dropout torque sensor but in the most recent review from EBR they don't look that responsive.

Not true my friend. They are indeed responsive and work well.

you could try this: https://www.izipelectric.com/cruising/e3-simi-step-over.html

It has torque sensor and works great.

 

[couchguydave]

Not true my friend. They are indeed responsive and work well.

you could try this: https://www.izipelectric.com/cruising/e3-simi-step-over.html

It has torque sensor and works great.

I hadn't seen the E3 simi bike before and it does include a torque sensor along with a cadence sensor. Sadly it is only a 250 watt motor with a 36 volt battery that I fear will leave me wanting more. I would be willing to pay a little more for something with more power.

And I haven't ever tried a Juiced bike so I really don't know about the responsiveness other than what is on the EBR video. Although I feel like $1899 for a 48V Cross Current S is a bit steep as it doesn't even include a rear integrated brake light.

 

[couchguydave]

Rooks and Colts still have torque sensors. I have some arriving at my shop this week. Still the best ebike on the market for the money, with all the integrated options and torque sensing.

I don't know what to tell you Mike, I talked with a S604 rep yesterday and they specifically told me that the current Rook/Colt do not come with a torque sensor but just a cadence sensor. Like I said they said they were planning on producing more later this year with a rear dropout torque sensor but they aren't even in production yet in 2019 and won't be available until August.

 

[6zfshdb]

Here is an option to consider. When ebike shopping, I was disappointed at the relatively few bikes on the market that offer an upright riding position. I finally found a bike I liked with every feature I wanted except that upright position. The LBS owner told me the riding position on many bikes can be easily adjusted by changing handlebars and / or adding a stem riser. He was right. A set of Jones H bars and a 4" stem riser converted my nearly perfect bike into one that fits my riding style completely.

If you go this route, check the wiring, brake and shifter cable lengths to make sure there is enough slack to accommodate the Mods you want to make. Replacing cables can get expensive.

 

[Dewey]

you could try this: https://www.izipelectric.com/cruising/e3-simi-step-over.html It has torque sensor and works great.

A Walmart seller is selling a similar cruiser with a Bafang max 250 mid drive, the Schwinn Constance. I think it has a torque sensor. When Court first reviewed it I thought Pacific Cycles were cheeky slapping a Schwinn badge on and charging a grand more than the bike is worth but now it’s come down in price.

 

[keithd]

Here is an option to consider. When ebike shopping, I was disappointed at the relatively few bikes on the market that offer an upright riding position. I finally found a bike I liked with every feature I wanted except that upright position. The LBS owner told me the riding position on many bikes can be easily adjusted by changing handlebars and / or adding a stem riser. He was right. A set of Jones H bars and a 4" stem riser converted my nearly perfect bike into one that fits my riding style completely.

If you go this route, check the wiring, brake and shifter cable lengths to make sure there is enough slack to accommodate the Mods you want to make. Replacing cables can get expensive.

What bike did you buy?

 

[6zfshdb]

What bike did you buy?

I bit the bullet and laid out the extra $$ for a Pedego Platinum Interceptor. I really like their no questions asked 2 year warranty. The interceptor is designed as a cruiser type bike but adding the Jones H bars and stem riser allows me to sit in a more upright position. It was easy to swap the bars since the cruiser bars had extra long cables.



Stock Configuration



Modified with new bars, stem riser, suspension seatpost & spare battery rack

 

[keithd]

6zfshdb

Thanks for sharing

 

[Dewey]

Unfortunately it appears they were not accurate in what they told me via email. Questioned them twice. Now the GM admits 'speed sensors.'

That's a shame, now why would they do something silly like remove a key selling feature?

 

[Deleted member 4210]

That's a shame, now why would they do something silly like remove a key selling feature?

Correction. The sensor is the same as described in courts review of last years model. 2018. Per John Dem the GM of surface. I have an email from him within the last hour.

 

[tomjasz]

The LBS owner told me the riding position on many bikes can be easily adjusted by changing handlebars and / or adding a stem riser.

Almost true. I’m wrapping up a scratch build from a bare Marin Euro step through frame. I’m upright but a bit cramped compared to longer wheel bases on a flat foot/comfort bikes. As much as 8 inches more than a hybrid measures between the bottom bracket and seat tube.

 

[GregGritton]

Hey everyone. Looking for a Cruiser or upright bike under or around $1800.
Preferably with rear rack and lights (headlight and tail)
500+ watt

You might check out the iZip E3 Path Plus. The normal price is ~$2600, but there are a few sizes/styles available for $1500. (Even if the show sold out on their web site, sometimes a local bike shop can get one.) I really liked the responsiveness of the bike and almost bought one, but bought a Gazelle Arroyo instead (although it was even more expensive).

The iZip E3 Path Plus uses a Shimano Steps motor. It is nominally rated at 250w (so it can be legal in Europe), but has a peak power of ~500 watts, similar to the Bosch Performance Line motors.

 

[ebikemom]

onger wheel bases on a flat foot/comfort bikes

My bike has a super long wheelbase. May I ask how/why this presents an advantage for comfort/upride ride versus shorter wheelbases?

 

[tomjasz]

My bike has a super long wheelbase. May I ask how/why this presents an advantage for comfort/upride ride versus shorter wheelbases?

The distance between the seat tube and the crank is typically 8-10" longer than a typical bike. Being slightly recumbent means the seat can be lower and we can sit on the seat and "flat foot" (another name for the geometry). We can stop and not dismount and put our feet flat on the ground while still sitting comfortably.

 

[tomjasz]

Hey everyone. Looking for a Cruiser or upright bike under or around $1800.
Preferably with rear rack and lights (headlight and tail)
500+ watt

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A kit on an Electra Townie!