Coyote encounters

[Handlebars]

"Most of this material is called “meat and bone meal.” It can be used in livestock feed, pet food, or fertilizer.
It joins a long list of ingredients that you might prefer not to see in your pet's food.
The city of Los Angeles alone sends about 200 tons of dead pets to a rendering plant each month."

Not sure this is accurate, but the dead animal use practice is allowed. In the US, so is feeding chicken poop and feathers.

 

[john peck]

Road kill can go into dog food, so can lab animals. When the cheap dog food label says "meat", not "chicken" or "boar" or "beef", that is what you are getting.

Road kill can go into dog food, so can lab animals. When the cheap dog food label says "meat", not "chicken" or "boar" or "beef", that is what you are getting.

I really do not appreciate your tacking a sentence onto my post as if I had written that!! Perhaps I should
start editing your posts!!

 

[Westlafadeaway]

I dont believe there are wolves in chi town . Link to the article please .

I misread the article, I thought it said wolves were prevalent... https://www.chicagotribune.com/news...0200109-n5tubflfqjg5jb5fm246xhniuy-story.html

 

[Westlafadeaway]

I agree. We live on a rural 21 acre estate and the deer come right up to the house. They have little fear of us since we don't usually harass them. The exception is when they get into my wife's garden. You can hear her yelling at them a mile away! We usually plant deer resistant flowers but if they get hungry enough, they'll eat anything.

We have friends who have a small orchard. They installed a 4' fence but as you say, they just hop over it. They replaced the 4' with a 6' fence but they even jump that one too. Out of desperation, they got a pair of Irish Wolfhounds which roam the fenced in acreage. Now when the deer jump the fence, they quickly become dog food.

I was reading about using sheep to graze grasslands instead of paying people to use machines, and one interesting tidbit is sheep don't eat flowers, just grass.

 

[Westlafadeaway]

Most advanced nation on the planet and we have millions of hogs and coyotes running rampant across the land. Makes you wonder.

the feral hogs were first introduced by the explorers. They'd leave enough hogs behind as they explored for them to breed, and when they came back a year later they had a reliable food source to hunt. Indians hated them. https://www.aphis.usda.gov/aphis/resources/pests-diseases/feral-swine/sa-fs- history#:~:text=Feral%20swine%20are%20not%20native,populations%20within%20the%20United%20States.

Hawaii has a huge problems with feral hogs/boars.

 

[Mulezen]

The escaped hogs of the Spanish began the genocide with TB etc. so Native Americans were dying’ of European diseases long before they set eyes on white men. The Mound Builders of the mid west are a prime example

 

[Handlebars]

Me either!

The amount from LA is what I'm not sure about. Anything labeled just as "meat" is an ingredient in a pet food I would not feed to my pets.
Here's another tip.
The first ingredient can THEORETICALLY be as low as about 10% of the total.
The longer the list of ingredients, the lower the amount of first ingredients is likely to be.
As well, the first ingredient may be elipses with a dozen things listed..(salmon, trout, shrimp, lamb, beef, pork, ....) and all together makes them the first ingredient...which altogether might theoretically be 10% of total in a really poor feed.
Then you get corn, and flour, middlings, germ, whole grains of wheat, different forms add up and then soy and soy protein... so that grains and so on are very high in the total...and very cheap compared to decent quality meat.

Check out veterinarian dog food sellers...always the worst ingredient list, with corn usually topping it. It's "balanced" chemically though.
Veterinarians pet food was perhaps the hardest hit with the melamine poisoning scandal..BECAUSE they are such poor quality feeds.

 

[Handlebars]

Here's something even the coyotes might like. Look at this list. This is the kind of list you should look for in a pet food if you can afford it.
75% high quality meat.
Origen Regional Red https://orijen.ca/en_CA/regional-red/ns-ori-regionalred.html

"Fresh ranch-raised beef meat (11%), fresh wild boar meat (4%), fresh plains bison meat (4%), fresh grass-fed lamb meat (4%), fresh Yorkshire pork meat (4%), fresh beef liver (4%), fresh beef tripe (4%), fresh whole pilchard (4%), fresh cage-free eggs (4%), fresh wild boar liver (4%), lamb (dehydrated, 4%), beef (dehydrated, 4%), whole herring (dehydrated, 4%), mutton (dehydrated, 4%), pork (dehydrated, 4%), fresh lamb liver (3.5%), fresh lamb tripe (3.5%), whole sardine (dehydrated, 3%), fresh pork liver (3%), whole red lentils, whole green lentils, fresh whole green peas, lentil fibre, fresh whole chickpeas, fresh whole yellow peas, fresh whole pinto beans, beef fat (1%), pork fat (1%), herring oil (1%), beef cartilage (dehydrated, 1%), beef liver (freeze-dried), beef tripe (freeze-dried), lamb liver (freeze-dried), lamb tripe (freeze-dried), fresh whole pumpkin, fresh whole butternut squash, fresh whole zucchini, fresh whole parsnips, fresh carrots, fresh whole Red Delicious apples, fresh whole Bartlett pears, fresh kale, fresh spinach, fresh beet greens, fresh turnip greens, brown kelp, whole cranberries, whole blueberries, whole Saskatoon berries, chicory root, turmeric root, milk thistle, burdock root, lavender, marshmallow root, rosehips. ADDITIVES (per kg): Nutritional additives: Zinc chelate: 100 mg. Zootechnical additives: Enterococcus faecium NCIMB10415: 600x10^6 CFU."


and THIS is Pedigree

"GROUND WHOLE GRAIN CORN, MEAT AND BONE MEAL (SOURCE OF CALCIUM), CORN GLUTEN MEAL, ANIMAL FAT (SOURCE OF OMEGA 6 FATTY ACIDS [PRESERVED WITH BHA & CITRIC ACID]), SOYBEAN MEAL, NATURAL FLAVOR, CHICKEN BY-PRODUCT MEAL, DRIED PLAIN BEET PULP, SALT, POTASSIUM CHLORIDE, BREWERS RICE, GROUND WHOLE GRAIN WHEAT, CHOLINE CHLORIDE, DRIED PEAS, DL-METHIONINE, NATURAL GRILLED STEAK FLAVOR, ZINC SULFATE, CALCIUM CARBONATE, MONOCALCIUM PHOSPHATE, VITAMIN E SUPPLEMENT, L-TRYPTOPHAN, RED 40, YELLOW 6, DRIED CARROTS, BLUE 2, YELLOW 5, COPPER SULFATE, D-CALCIUM PANTOTHENATE [SOURCE OF VITAMIN B5], SODIUM SELENITE, NIACIN [VITAMIN B3], POTASSIUM IODIDE, RIBOFLAVIN SUPPLEMENT [VITAMIN B2], VITAMIN A SUPPLEMENT, VITAMIN B12 SUPPLEMENT, PYRIDOXINE HYDROCHLORIDE [VITAMIN B6], THIAMINE MONONITRATE [VITAMIN B1], VITAMIN D3 SUPPLEMENT, FOLIC ACID "

 

[Handlebars]

I really do not appreciate your tacking a sentence onto my post as if I had written that!! Perhaps I should
start editing your posts!!

Oh, sorry. Not sure why but sometimes when I press "reply" the only place my own words go is inside the box of the quote.
Sometimes I miss and have to go back and edit out something that got in there. I didn't notice that what I started typing there was still in there when I hit the post button. My apologies. I made a notation on the post.

 

[Handlebars]

Coyote attacks fifth victim: Man bitten outside Lafayette store

"Police responded to reports of a man bitten by a coyote across from Kwik Stop around 10 p.m. Friday, said Steven Valkanoff of the Contra Costa sheriff’s office.


The victim sought medical treatment at a local hospital, Valkanoff said.

Using DNA found on the victim’s clothing, officials with Contra Costa Animal Services traced the attack back to the same coyote responsible for four other recent biting incidents.

Two days earlier, on Feb. 17, the coyote bit a 3-year old girl in Moraga. Earlier, the coyote attacked a 2-year-old in a parking lot in July and a man working out at a local high school football field in December.

Local wildlife officials have launched an “extensive trapping operation” to catch the coyote, officials said.

“Multiple trapping lines are in place and there is a 24-hour effort to remove this animal,” Moraga police said.

Once the animal is caught, officials will euthanize it and test it for rabies, said Patrick Foy, a captain with Fish and Wildlife.

The latest attack comes amid a rise in coyote-human encounters across the Bay Area. Following a string of assaults, biologists with the National Park Service launched a coyote tracking program in the Marin Headlands to better understand coyote behavior in an effort to prevent confrontations.

Wildlife experts with California Fish and Wildlife encouraged members of the public who encounter a coyote to remain calm and stay put. Running away can trigger the animal to attack.

Shouting aggressively and throwing rocks in the coyote’s direction can also prevent an attack, Foy said."

 

[AHicks]

I'll bet that Coyote does have rabies. I had a large muskrat come after me in a parking lot located next to a swamp one day. As luck would have it, I saw it coming and was able to give it a flying lesson. End of encounter. Would be funny if it were not for the thought that if I hadn't seen it coming and it bit me, I'd have had to go through the rabies shot ritual. No fun there for sure!

 

[Handlebars]

These mink are fascinating. The dogs are so happy, too. And he has a hunting lizard. Usually the action in his videos is absolutely furious. First hit is around 5minutes in.

Muskrat hides behind human to escape mink. Also a muskrat attacks human rather than meet the mink.

 

[reed scott]

These mink are fascinating. The dogs are so happy, too. And he has a hunting lizard. Usually the action in his videos is absolutely furious. First hit is around 5minutes in.

Holy Moly! I had to subscribe to this channel on you tube. Don't ever tell me there is nothing new under the sun.

 

[Cowlitz]

Former farm kid here. When I'd see a coyote getting to close to the house, I'd grab the rifle and lob a few shots in that direction. It is important to keep them scared of people.

In my former house, I saw a coyote trotting unscared through my yard. Couldn't shoot at it as I don't have rifles anymore. I had a cat that was a shop cat, and when picking out a cat for that job, asked for a mean one. Coyotes didn't get him. My Lab was OK too, but was indoors at night. Coyote howling is more of a yapping and is just as annoying as a barking dog.

For deer, I have a weak Daisy BB gun. It is so weak that you have to compensate for the arc. It will sting a deer when shot in the rump, which is where one should aim for so as not to put their eye out.

The worst wildlife I've had to deal with was packrats. They make your woodshed smell like an outhouse, destroy things, and a mean kitty won't hunt them. I trapped one but the rest of the rodents seemed to have learned from that. When I'd go grab the little shotgun, they had time to get out of sight. I hate those varmints. They seemed to escape predation by the coyotes. Maybe they are not tasty.

 

[Cowlitz]

Are any of you familiar with what a dog will actually eat? It's pretty disgusting so I don't really worry much whether road kill is in the dog fud.

Also, in Warshington the state, if the road kill is not too bad, it is delivered to at least one prison. The inmates even complained about getting tired of eating venison.

 

[Handlebars]

Are any of you familiar with what a dog will actually eat? It's pretty disgusting so I don't really worry much whether road kill is in the dog fud.

Also, in Warshington the state, if the road kill is not too bad, it is delivered to at least one prison. The inmates even complained about getting tired of eating venison.

They seem to enjoy chewing cat poop. The dogs.

 

[Handlebars]

Former farm kid here. When I'd see a coyote getting to close to the house, I'd grab the rifle and lob a few shots in that direction. It is important to keep them scared of people.

In my former house, I saw a coyote trotting unscared through my yard. Couldn't shoot at it as I don't have rifles anymore. I had a cat that was a shop cat, and when picking out a cat for that job, asked for a mean one. Coyotes didn't get him. My Lab was OK too, but was indoors at night. Coyote howling is more of a yapping and is just as annoying as a barking dog.

For deer, I have a weak Daisy BB gun. It is so weak that you have to compensate for the arc. It will sting a deer when shot in the rump, which is where one should aim for so as not to put their eye out.

The worst wildlife I've had to deal with was packrats. They make your woodshed smell like an outhouse, destroy things, and a mean kitty won't hunt them. I trapped one but the rest of the rodents seemed to have learned from that. When I'd go grab the little shotgun, they had time to get out of sight. I hate those varmints. They seemed to escape predation by the coyotes. Maybe they are not tasty.

My granny would take a shovel to the coal shed and smack the rats down a bit before so she could get some coal. To me the rats looked 4 feet long as they streaked across the garden.

 

[Handlebars]

outhouse

Oh yeah! Reminder.
Just in the news the story of the Alaskan woman camping out, who got nipped on the butt when she went to the outhouse. Brown bear under the toilet.
That is their story anyway.

 

[Handlebars]

Holy Moly! I had to subscribe to this channel on you tube. Don't ever tell me there is nothing new under the sun.

Oh yeah, there are some good ones to see. I haven't watched them all yet. The mink in the aquarium video is one I liked.

 

[reed scott]

They seem to enjoy chewing cat poop. The dogs.

Well known but seldom spoken about. Canine Caviar.