Civilized Cycles’ Model 1 e-Bike Is Unlike Any Other You’ve Seen

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Civilized Cycles’ Model 1 e-Bike Is Unlike Any Other You’ve Seen

What’s comfortable like a scooter, can carry both cargo and passengers, looks like a regular bicycle, but is fast and powerful like an electric one? That would be Model 1 from Civilized Cycles.

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[FlatSix911]

Interesting design... a bit pricy at $5K for delivery in Spring 2021.

 

[Dallant]

Looks like a scooter to me.

 

[e-boy]

Looks like a scooter to me.

“(CEO and Founder) Schieffelin used to work at Vespa New York and, when electric bikes began popping up on the market and they included some in their offer, he noticed that people would ask for an ideal product that combined features from various vehicles: they wanted a bicycle but one they didn’t have to pedal all that much; they wanted to ride with someone else, but not on a motorcycle; they wanted cargo space, but didn’t care to invest in a car and scooters were deemed too much of a hassle.”

 

[JRA]

I actually kind of like the design in theory but am a bit skeptical of it in practice. This video of the hill climb seems like it raises a few questions like is that someone working on the street making those clunking noises and why didn't the rider make it all the way up?

Not much info on the actual motor and drive train and the area where it resides looks kind of slim to me for the amount of watts and advertised more torque than a Bosch? Time will tell and I wish them luck.

There was an early ebike effort that had an arch type frame called Pi Cycles that was similarly dependent on aluminum for it's strength but arched the other way.

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It didn't make more than a small ripple in the eBike continuum but I'd like to have one of the KR models to hang on the wall.....

 

[Maestrodenada]

So I did a preorder on one of these bikes, and they are finally shipping this month after a bunch of pandemic-related supply chain delays. To answer a few of the questions above about drive train: they took a hub motor and mounted it fixed to the frame behind the seat post between the panniers, and it’s controlled using a torque sensor in the BB. It’s an interesting design that is undoubtably cheaper than buying a mid-drive part (if you have the design chops to build the electronics), but it means there are three chains- one from the chain ring to a transfer gear behind it, one from the transfer gear up to the motor, and one from the motor to the IGH at the back.

It‘s the part of the design I’m the most wary of, but I’m enough of a tinkerer to be willing to deal with it. The chains are 1/8“ and well-protected so hopefully won’t need to be lubed as often as more exposed chains. The clacking and problems on the hill in the video are clearly from a chain slipping somewhere in this complicated drivetrain; hopefully they’ve got that dialed in now.

 

[JRA]

By that description it sounds very much like the Stoke Monkey system that was one of the early efforts at getting access to the bikes drivetrain to amplify the power via gearing.

It is now out of circulation: https://ebikes.ca/product-info/retired/stoke.html

I hope you finally get your bike and that it performs well for you!

 

[spitzing freak]

The clacking and problems on the hill in the video are clearly from a chain slipping somewhere in this complicated drivetrain; hopefully they’ve got that dialed in now.

i was going to mention that sounded like a chain slipping, until you mentioned it...high torque ebikes and especially under a load, will stretch the chain, it's something to be avoided.

at 90 pounds, this bike is going to really stress those chains

i found going to a wax based lube (starting with a clean chain) really helps

 

[tomjasz]

My first thought was the Micah Toll design from his college years. We all thought he’d end up a success.

 

[ElevenAD]

I actually kind of like the design in theory but am a bit skeptical of it in practice. This video of the hill climb seems like it raises a few questions like is that someone working on the street making those clunking noises and why didn't the rider make it all the way up?

Not much info on the actual motor and drive train and the area where it resides looks kind of slim to me for the amount of watts and advertised more torque than a Bosch? Time will tell and I wish them luck.

There was an early ebike effort that had an arch type frame called Pi Cycles that was similarly dependent on aluminum for it's strength but arched the other way.

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It didn't make more than a small ripple in the eBike continuum but I'd like to have one of the KR models to hang on the wall.....

Lmao Rider is Struggling hard and does not appear to be in the proper gear for a hill like this. This video does not give me confidence in the motor's power.