Bought Trek Domane+ ALR

Larry Nigro

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Region
USA
City
Manchester NH
Took first ride today went 31 miles and had 15% battery left. Each green led on the controller is 20%. Only used Breeze setting
and it was giving me to much assist. It is still at factory settings which is 100 watts for breeze. Am going to go on a few more rides before I customize the three modes. Breeze, River, and Rocket. The ride had 2,579 feet of elevation gain. The fit and finish of the bike is spot on. The mirror is the bike eye and it comes in two sizes small and large that is a large. The black color is perfect with all of the accessories being black.
 

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Damn, that’s the biggest under seat bag I ever saw!

My brother has a house on Mascoma Lake… the Northern Rail Trail runs right along his property. Maybe we’ll see you out there sometime. Beautiful bike!
 
Very cool. How do you get the side-by-side bottle cages on the down tube?

I think I may have gone this direction if it was available when I purchased my 2019 Domane+, although I like the Bosch motor. I do, however, prefer Shimano over SRAM.
 
That's a great bike for the money. The only negative I can see is that the battery has to be taken out to charge and turn back on.
It would be interesting to see a comparison between this bike and a Specialized Creo. In Canada, the Creo is $750 (cad) more.
 

Turbo Creo SL Comp E5​

Part No.: 98120-6202

$6,000​

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Technical Specifications​

E-BIKE
BatterySpecialized SL1-320, fully integrated, 320Wh
UI/RemoteSpecialized TCU, 10-LED State of charge, 3-LED Ride Mode display, ANT+/Bluetooth®, w/Handlebar remote
Wiring HarnessCustom Specialized wiring harness w/ chargeport
ChargerCustom charger, 48V System w/ SL system charger plug
BRAKES
Rear BrakeShimano GRX 400 hydraulic disc
Front BrakeShimano GRX 400 hydraulic disc
DRIVETRAIN
Chainrings40T
CassetteSunrace, 11-speed, alloy spider, 11-42t
CranksetPraxis, Forged alloy M30, custom offset
Shift LeversShimano GRX 600 hydraulic brake levers, mechanical shifting
ChainShimano HG601, 11spd
Rear DerailleurShimano RX812 GX, Shadow Plus, 11-speed

ForkFuture Shock 1.5 w/ Smooth Boot, Boost™ 12x110mm thru-axle, flat-mount disc
Seat BinderSpecialized Alloy, 30.8mm
FrameSpecialized E5 Premium Aluminum frame, Open Road Geometry, front/rear thru-axles, fully integrated down tube battery, internal cable routing, fender/rack mounts, Boost™ 12x148mm
COCKPIT
SeatPostCarbon, single-bolt, 27.2mm
TapeRoubaix S-Wrap
StemFuture Stem, Comp
SaddleBody Geometry Power Sport, steel rails
HandlebarsSpecialized Hover Comp, Alloy, 125mm Drop, 75mm Reach w/Di2 Hole
WHEELS
Front WheelDT R470 Boost, 12x110mm
Rear WheelDT R470 Boost, 12x148mm
WHEELS & TIRES
Front TireSpecialized Turbo Pro, 700x28mm
Inner TubesPresta, 48mm valve
Rear TireSpecialized Turbo Pro, 700x28mm
* Specifications are subject to change without notice
Manual Downloads
 
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2021 Domane+ ALR
12 Reviews / Write a review
$4,599.99

Specifications​

*spec applies to all sizes unless otherwise noted

Frameset
Frame300 Series Alpha Aluminum, Fazua Evation integrated drive system, tapered head tube, internal routing, flat mount disc, fender mounts, 148x12mm thru axle
ForkDomane+ carbon, tapered alloy steerer, flat mount disc, 12x100mm thru axle
Frame fitEndurance
Wheels
Drivetrain
*ShifterSize: 49, 52
Shimano 105 R7025, short-reach lever, 11 speed
Size: 54, 56, 58, 61
Shimano 105 R7020, 11 speed
Front derailleurShimano 105 R7000, braze-on
Rear derailleurShimano 105 R7000, long cage, 34T max cog
*CrankSize: 49, 52
FSA Alloy for Fazua, 50/34 chainrings, 170mm length
Size: 54, 56
FSA Alloy for Fazua, 50/34 chainrings, 172.5mm length
Size: 58, 61
FSA Alloy for Fazua, 50/34 chainrings, 175mm length
CassetteShimano 105 HG700-11, 11-34, 11 speed
ChainShimano 105 HG601, 11 speed
Components
SaddleBontrager Arvada Comp, steel rails, 138mm width
SeatpostBontrager Comp, 6061 alloy, 27.2mm, 8mm offset, 330mm length
*HandlebarSize: 49, 52
Bontrager Comp VR-C, alloy, 31.8mm, 100mm reach, 124mm drop, 40cm width
Size: 54, 56
Bontrager Comp VR-C, alloy, 31.8mm, 100mm reach, 124mm drop, 42cm width
Size: 58, 61
Bontrager Comp VR-C, alloy, 31.8mm, 100mm reach, 124mm drop, 44cm width
Handlebar tapeBontrager Supertack Perf tape
*StemSize: 49
Bontrager Elite, 31.8mm, Blendr compatible, 7 degree, 80mm length
Size: 52, 54
Bontrager Elite, 31.8mm, Blendr compatible, 7 degree, 90mm length
Size: 56, 58
Bontrager Elite, 31.8mm, Blendr compatible, 7 degree, 100mm length
Size: 61
Bontrager Elite, 31.8mm, Blendr compatible, 7 degree, 110mm length
HeadsetFSA Integrated, sealed cartridge bearing, 1-1/8'' top, 1.5'' bottom
BrakeShimano 105 hydraulic disc, flat mount
*Brake rotorSize: 49, 52, 54, 56, 58, 61
Shimano MT800, centerlock, 160mm
Size: 49, 52, 54, 56, 58, 61
Shimano EM810, centerlock 160mm
Accessories
*E-bike systemSize: 49, 52, 54, 56, 58, 61
Fazua Evation 1.0, 250Wh
Size: 49, 52, 54, 56, 58, 61
Fazua Evation Drive Pack, 20mph max assist
Size: 49, 52, 54, 56, 58, 61
Fazua Evation touch remote
Size: 49, 52, 54, 56, 58, 61
Fazua Evation charger, 90-120V
Weight
Weight56 - 15.21 kg / 33.53 lbs
Weight limitThis bike has a maximum total weight limit (combined weight of bicycle, rider, and cargo) of 275 pounds (125 kg).
 
Very cool. How do you get the side-by-side bottle cages on the down tube?

I think I may have gone this direction if it was available when I purchased my 2019 Domane+, although I like the Bosch motor. I do, however, prefer Shimano over SRAM.
Here is the link its called the B Rad system by wolf tooth when you go to the web site read the options. Call them if you have any questions.
I have two of them sitting on my work bench when I sold two of my bikes. If you lived in NH I would sell you one of them I had them on all of my bikes. If you see pics of my Vado which I have posted on here.
 
That's a great bike for the money. The only negative I can see is that the battery has to be taken out to charge and turn back on.
It would be interesting to see a comparison between this bike and a Specialized Creo. In Canada, the Creo is $750 (cad) more.
You do not have to take out the battery to turn it on. You do have to take it out to charge the battery but after doing it at the bike shop and in my garage twice as I type this I would not let this be a deal breaker. If you see my pics the one with the leds lite up you press the odd shaped button to turn the battery on and off. Surrounding that is a sensitive touch pad to go between the three modes the pad is very touch sensitive.
 
I thought if you leave the bike for a long period of time, say overnight, you then had to take the battery out to turn it back on. One of the riders in our senior's riding group has Domane+LT and I know she just hits the button to get started after we stop for coffee, but I thought she had to take the battery out each morning before her rides.
 
Some updates after six rides. I have downloaded the Fazua rider app and the Fazua app to my smart phone. The rider app gives ride information such as
  • GPS navigation, tracking and trip information
  • Motor power, remaining battery capacity, distance to empty, etc. you can find more info on the website. The other app will allow me to download and install different support profiles they have for the type of riding such as road, gravel, mountain, fitness, and urban. I have also created my own support profile. The road profile that I have down loaded is named Roadbike Chilli Milli the description says it will give up to 150 kilometers/93 miles of range in Breeze mode. The custom profile that I set up tweaked the Chills Milli profile . Right now I am riding with the Factory Default profile. This app also allows me to see system details such as percent of battery, battery temp, battery cycles, and total distance covered of all rides. The other day I went on a 26 mile ride when I got home I checked the battery percent left and it was 32% I calculated that I had 12 miles of battery range left. Using this data the Factory profile range is 35 to 40 miles in Breeze mode. On my first ride I was not using the gears what I was doing is using the battery to go up a hill instead of shifting to a lower gear. On subsequent rides I started to shift into the gear that I would use on a non assisted bike this increased the range. The system knows how much force you are applying to the pedals as well as your cadence. Now for some rider error. This is all from the Owners Manual. When shifting front or back you must stop pedaling to release tension on the rear derailleur. When you stop pedaling (immediately you can hear an audible click) you then shift then you can start pedaling. I was not doing this at first and was getting a hard clunking sound from the rear derailleur. Also when shifting the front chain rings I dropped the chain two times. When doing this the shifts are very smooth. On one of the rides to the Everett dam which ended up being 37 miles I was concerned about range so on the ride I turned off assist which shows as white leds on the controller. As we neared the dam you have to climb a hill to get to the parking lot so I selected Breeze mode and climbed the hill as I turned into the parking lot I turned off the assist. We got off our bikes and rested. What I did not know is that if the bike sits idle for 15 minutes in this mode it turns off assist but does not turn off the battery (the battery will turn off after 1 hour). Got back on the bike and put it in Breeze mode green leds but the assist was off so at the next hill which is 14% grade I actually rode up it with no assist when I got the the top I turned the battery off and then on but what I needed to do is hold the on/off button for 8 seconds to turn assist back on so I actually rode 12 miles back home with no assist. Again this is all in the owners manual which I read in more detail when I got home. I then charged the battery up and reinstalled it and took the bike for a spin around the parking lot and everything was working fine. I am in contact via Email and phone calls to the Fazua USA rep as the app to install new profiles is giving me a error message "unable to push profile" we have tried different things but so far no solution. They are coming out with a major update for the smart phone app to make it the main interface between bike and user so I am not going to use the Fazua tool box app which I had downloaded to my Mac Book Pro this requires a USB connection so I am going to wait for the update. Let me close by saying I am very happy with the bike fit and finish as well as the Fazua drive system when you get up to 20 miles per hour and the assist goes away it is seamless no drag it just stays smooth as you pedal to go faster then 20 MPH.
 

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Update. I finally decided to use the Fazua Tool Box app. So I connected my laptop via USB to the USB port on the Fazua drive system. There was
a software update available which I installed. I then reinstalled the drive system back on the bike. Used the Fazua App (IPhone) to connect via bluetooth to the drive system and was able to load the Chilli Milli profile. This profile has a range estimate of 93 miles in breeze mode. Can't wait to get out and test it. Its been rainy here in NH.
 
Update. Returned bike to Trek bike store for full refund. Let me start by saying the workmanship of the bike frame, paint and components was top shelf. The Trek store employees and management were very professional. The weakness was the Fazua drive system. I was in email correspondence with Fazua in Germany as well as the North American rep. Working with them was very time consuming. The problems that I had were. All assistance stopped on four different rides the only led lite was the led just below the fault led. The first time this happened I turned around and went home. Removed the drive pack and reinstalled it. I turned the bike back on and all led's lit up. The next two times this happened I removed and reinstalled drive pack on the road and continued my ride. The last time it happened this past Saturday I was unable to remove the drive pack while on the road and had to ride home with no assist. This is when I decided to return the bike and get a full refund. While owning the bike it was getting harder and harder to remove the drive pack to charge the battery that is why on my last ride I could not get the latch to release the drive pack. Also what was happening was on the rides I was getting different levels of assist. As an example I went on a 30 mile ride started with 100% battery when I got home and connected via the iPhone app it said I only used 7% battery in my opinion not possible because the ride had over 2,000 feet of elevation. On another ride the assist was working as advertised I put it in river mode to climb hills and it was like I was riding a rocket ship. I was able to create my custom assist profiles and download them to the bike via the app. I was not getting full assist on most of my rides. The iPhone app would not connect all of the time and this was frustrating especially while on a ride this problem made it hard for me to see precisely how much battery I had left as well as the inability to tweak a profile. The ability to remove the drive pack for charging was becoming harder and harder the latch would not release the drive pack. I returned the bike. Need to look at other bikes such as Cannondale, Specialized, or even another Trek that have different drive systems. I do want another road style E Bike.
 
Update. Returned bike to Trek bike store for full refund. Let me start by saying the workmanship of the bike frame, paint and components was top shelf. The Trek store employees and management were very professional. The weakness was the Fazua drive system. I was in email correspondence with Fazua in Germany as well as the North American rep. Working with them was very time consuming. The problems that I had were. All assistance stopped on four different rides the only led lite was the led just below the fault led. The first time this happened I turned around and went home. Removed the drive pack and reinstalled it. I turned the bike back on and all led's lit up. The next two times this happened I removed and reinstalled drive pack on the road and continued my ride. The last time it happened this past Saturday I was unable to remove the drive pack while on the road and had to ride home with no assist. This is when I decided to return the bike and get a full refund. While owning the bike it was getting harder and harder to remove the drive pack to charge the battery that is why on my last ride I could not get the latch to release the drive pack. Also what was happening was on the rides I was getting different levels of assist. As an example I went on a 30 mile ride started with 100% battery when I got home and connected via the iPhone app it said I only used 7% battery in my opinion not possible because the ride had over 2,000 feet of elevation. On another ride the assist was working as advertised I put it in river mode to climb hills and it was like I was riding a rocket ship. I was able to create my custom assist profiles and download them to the bike via the app. I was not getting full assist on most of my rides. The iPhone app would not connect all of the time and this was frustrating especially while on a ride this problem made it hard for me to see precisely how much battery I had left as well as the inability to tweak a profile. The ability to remove the drive pack for charging was becoming harder and harder the latch would not release the drive pack. I returned the bike. Need to look at other bikes such as Cannondale, Specialized, or even another Trek that have different drive systems. I do want another road style E Bike.
Sorry to hear that. I have not been hearing great things about Fazua.
 
Saying Good Bye to the Trek forum. Picked up my Cannondale Topstone Neo5 yesterday at REI in North Conway NH. Went for first ride today.
Good luck to all of you. Moving to the Cannondale forum.
 

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Sorry to hear that. I have not been hearing great things about Fazua.
That is sad. I bought a Trek with a Bosch system but really considered the Fazua Domane. On Facebook etc the Fazua system seems to have issues. Seems like a good company though trying to get everything cleared up.
 
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