battery balancing

Gordon71

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I just got my first E bike (which I love) a few days ago. What they want me to do is after each of the first three rides to charge the battery for as close to 12 hours as I can but no longer than 12 hours. I'm to do this no matter how short or long the ride is. The idea is to "balance" the battery. I'm doing this but am curious as to what I'm actually accomplishing. Once the battery reaches it's full charge the charger automatically shuts off. Once that happens what exactly is being accomplished by leaving it plugged in for the remainder of the 12 hours?
Thanks.
 
You have either 10 or 13 groups of cells in series inside your battery. The working voltage of these cells is between 3.0 to 4.3Volts. Nominal volrage, at half charge, is around 3.6V. So multipl the nominal by 10 or 13, and you get 36 and 48 volts.

Your battery shuts off when any group hits 3.0 volts, so it's the lowest charged grourp that determines how long you can run your battery. For recharge, your charger shuts off when any group reached 4.2V, so it's the highest charge group that determines how long you can charge the battery.

When a battery is badly out of balance, like lowest group at 3.6V and highest at 4.2V, you van only get half the use out of the battery, and you cannot charge up the low group either because the charger shuts off too early. If you battery can balance itself, it will do so during a long charge. The charger may show green, but the battery will try to discharge the higher groups and let the lower groups catch up. That's why they suggest those three long charge cycles.

Some batteries don't balance. Those that do will take a long time. It might take a week if you really had cells that were 1/2 volt apart. Usually, the cells in a new, healthy battery are within .10 volt of each other.
 
I'm not sure why they would tell you about the 12 hour plan they're suggesting. Not sure the 12 hour thing is real relevant.

I am a fan of frequent balancing though - and the only way that can be done is to leave the charger on until it shuts off.
 
Who exactly told you this? :rolleyes:
From:

Battery Balancing Guide
  1. Charge the battery after the first three rides. After the first, second, and third ride, regardless of distance ridden or the amount of battery used, charge the battery and leave the charger attached to the battery and the outlet for as close to 12 hours as possible (but not longer than 12 hours). This may require leaving the charger attached to the battery and outlet even after the charger illuminates one green (and one red) light indicating the battery is full.
Once that happens what exactly is being accomplished by leaving it plugged in for the remainder of the 12 hours?
I think this wikipedia page does a good job of explaining balancing.
 
Regarding RAD's 12 hour max suggestion, I think maybe that's referencing chargers with full time cooling fans. It's the only thing I can think of. They're concern is that fan running unnecessarily after the charger has stopped charging. I don't know about what they're shipping who any more, but the charger that came with my '18 RAD has no fan, therefor no concern over this 12 hour thing. Point being, the manual might be past due to be revised on that point.
 
Well now, the assumption is that you're going to get current leak over your cell packs if one is considerably lower than the other. So it's not going to hurt anything. The likelihood of getting enough voltage drop during rest after a full charge to reactivate charge mode is extremely low. It would appear they wish to prevent any severe mismatch within the pack. A good battery builder does this at time of assembly. :rolleyes:
Thanks for the clarification. 👍
 
In my experience precautions should be taken when doing a long charge to balance. I use an ammo can with rubber grommet line ports for wiring and the lid seal removed. Never leave a battery unattended. My personal rule. YMMV
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What a battery fire in a downtube case looks like.
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Inside a UPP/Luna style Dolphin pack. Typical build from most Aliexpress sellers


Inside an EM3ev Reention Shark pack. With cell level fusing and CNC battery holder.

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