Who has the Smoothest and Natural Torque Sensor Hub Drive

[opimax]

I have tested a couple bikes , Aventon Level and Velotric 2 and found them lagging , especially on take off. I looked for a new Radster but not one near by. I have read in comments they have this issue also. I am hoping to find something local for support, biggest issue for me.

I have had 2 brands with rear hubs in the past which I enjoyed . Stromer was a great ride maybe the best and Bh was 2nd. I have/had mid drives that I like but looking for a higher ebend components on rear hub. They are Trek Allant with Bosch, Specialized Vado 5.0 igh with Browse, WattWagons using A Bafang 620 with alternate controller , all no delay and smooth delivery so the standard I have may be high . I would order a Zen anything it was available with local service.

additionally available to be unlocked would be a bonus and the more torque the better in general

i usually do longer rides using 3 batteries on max or 2nd highest power level each time ride on long R to trails , rolling hills.

please offer your thoughts on bikes , no options needed on high power, throttles ( which are a plus for me) and other distractions

 

[Seventysomething]

I have tested a couple bikes , Aventon Level and Velotric 2 and found them lagging , especially on take off. I looked for a new Radster but not one near by. I have read in comments they have this issue also. I am hoping to find something local for support, biggest issue for me.

I have had 2 brands with rear hubs in the past which I enjoyed . Stromer was a great ride maybe the best and Bh was 2nd. I have/had mid drives that I like but looking for a higher ebend components on rear hub. They are Trek Allant with Bosch, Specialized Vado 5.0 igh with Browse, WattWagons using A Bafang 620 with alternate controller , all no delay and smooth delivery so the standard I have may be high . I would order a Zen anything it was available with local service.

additionally available to be unlocked would be a bonus and the more torque the better in general

i usually do longer rides using 3 batteries on max or 2nd highest power level each time ride on long R to trails , rolling hills.

please offer your thoughts on bikes , no options needed on high power, throttles ( which are a plus for me) and other distractions

If you’re close to I-75, there is a dealer in Chattanooga that sells Zen bikes
The V3 Roadster R1’s is a excellent bike for the money, torque sensor is very smooth, don’t expect any help after the sale, they will not answer

 

[Jeremy McCreary]

Don't know about the smoothest, but my 65 (bare) lb, 500W, 65 Nm Surface 604 V Rook has a very nicely implemented torque-sensing assist and progressive on-demand thumb throttle combo — a very versatile power delivery system in my book. With its optional 9 assist levels, I find it smoother and more versatile than the same combo on my neighbor's 5-level Aventon Level.2.

Get a little surging when in too low a gear or too high an assist level for the total resistance I'm facing at the moment. No other power delivery issues beyond the inevitable loss of hub motor efficiency at low wheel speeds. Riding with all that in mind pretty much solves the problem.

This ebike is assembled in Canada with decent name-brand components for the price. Excellent performance and support so far (2 yrs, 3000 mi) but nothing like Aventon's dealer and service network in the US.

 

[Neto]

I have a 2 year old 64 lbs cruiser with hub motor, bb torque sensor and brake sensor use for brake light and motor cutoff. The motor assist is instant and proportional to my pedaling.
For the last 6 months I've been looking for a lighter ebike that will give me same instant response and there's none. I've test ride Velotric, Aventons, and other mid-drives like Shimano, Yamaha, Bronx, and Brose, and they all have delayed assist during start. Noticeably they all don't have brake motor cutoff. Provably they need initial bike movement to allow motor to run for safety.
Imagine if your starting in a narrow path facing uphill, you don't have assist when you need it most. and the funny thing is all of them claim to give the most natural ride.
Natural ride for me is when I push the pedal, the motor respond proportionally without delay and alteration. Let my feet dictate the ride.

 

[opimax]

Going to test a Rad Roadster today

I have a browse on Specialized Vado igh, this seems fine to me just not enough torque. Also too much effort to keep higher speeds, need to able to adjust to my liking but this setting is not available. I do note it doesn’t have cut offs as you said

i was ok with Velotric and Aventon after the deal killer initial delay, not really natural but ok