pushkar
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Previous Update here
Delivery dates :
Hydra
1. First batch of Frames are being painted. We hope to roll out the builds starting end of next week.
2. We received the fat tire rear triangles. They will be part of the builds.
Helios
1. A very limited batch of frames have shipped today AM (getting the first 6 or 7 that were produced this week, shipping whatever we can build every week). Original target was first week of April, but now tracking Mid April for frames to land in Boston. We will start confirming and rolling out as we get those.
2. Supernova lights have shipped! Yay.
3. Non founder orders will ship late May
Pricing - this is important. Please read. No, this is not an April fools joke
1. Pricing for all our existing component orders have gone up, considerably, and in some cases retroactively (motor, batteries, lights).
2. Shipping has gone up by nearly 60-100% in some cases. (We just paid ~$12k in shipping for something that was originally quoted at $4700).
3. Battery prices have gone up retroactively (meaning for orders that we commited to in late October). Our 5000-10,000 cell orders have gone from ~$2.8/cell to $4.1 / 4.2/cell. This means every pack we build will cost around $140 or so more. The alternative is to use no-name brand cells, but we are not comfortable with that setup.
4. We have re-calibrated the pricing on the site effective today.
So what does this mean for your order?
1. For founders -
- there is no change in price. We had the inventory for those bikes in Oct / Nov, including motors and cells.
- If there was a request for extra battery packs (over and above the 2 we allocated for), we will provide the updated battery pack invoice.
2. For Rest of the orders (Both Helios / hydra) placed after Jan 1st, 2021<-- important date
- We anticipate that avg price of the bike has gone up by $175 for most stock orders, to $350 or so where the order has multiple batteries, lights, hub changes, custom wheel sets etc.
This is a tough conversation to have, considering we haven't fully rolled out the bikes yet, but we want to try and get ahead of this right now.
This is a tough conversation to have, considering this is how we have been all this while (and haven't rolled out bikes yet)
...
This is truly frustrating experience as a buyer (delays, price change etc), and we completely understand. We have tried our best to hold the line on any increases, and internally we have absorbed around 250 to 350 dollars in cost already). We want to have an honest conversation about these costs as we start rolling them out starting later next week.
Other items
1. Launched ATOM, an m600 based city commuter. Great riding characteristics. You can order one here : https://wattwagons.com/products/atom . We are doing the painting starting next week, and 3-seed hubs are coming in mid-late April. Delivery starts early May.
2. ATOM will be stock Bafang controller (500W) at this price point, we will add the new controller option in June / July, to take it up to 750W nominal (1100W peak).
Edit: clarified the price change effective date to Jan 1st, 2021.
Delivery dates :
Hydra
1. First batch of Frames are being painted. We hope to roll out the builds starting end of next week.
2. We received the fat tire rear triangles. They will be part of the builds.
Helios
1. A very limited batch of frames have shipped today AM (getting the first 6 or 7 that were produced this week, shipping whatever we can build every week). Original target was first week of April, but now tracking Mid April for frames to land in Boston. We will start confirming and rolling out as we get those.
2. Supernova lights have shipped! Yay.
3. Non founder orders will ship late May
Pricing - this is important. Please read. No, this is not an April fools joke
1. Pricing for all our existing component orders have gone up, considerably, and in some cases retroactively (motor, batteries, lights).
2. Shipping has gone up by nearly 60-100% in some cases. (We just paid ~$12k in shipping for something that was originally quoted at $4700).
3. Battery prices have gone up retroactively (meaning for orders that we commited to in late October). Our 5000-10,000 cell orders have gone from ~$2.8/cell to $4.1 / 4.2/cell. This means every pack we build will cost around $140 or so more. The alternative is to use no-name brand cells, but we are not comfortable with that setup.
4. We have re-calibrated the pricing on the site effective today.
So what does this mean for your order?
1. For founders -
- there is no change in price. We had the inventory for those bikes in Oct / Nov, including motors and cells.
- If there was a request for extra battery packs (over and above the 2 we allocated for), we will provide the updated battery pack invoice.
2. For Rest of the orders (Both Helios / hydra) placed after Jan 1st, 2021<-- important date
- We anticipate that avg price of the bike has gone up by $175 for most stock orders, to $350 or so where the order has multiple batteries, lights, hub changes, custom wheel sets etc.
This is a tough conversation to have, considering we haven't fully rolled out the bikes yet, but we want to try and get ahead of this right now.
This is a tough conversation to have, considering this is how we have been all this while (and haven't rolled out bikes yet)
...
This is truly frustrating experience as a buyer (delays, price change etc), and we completely understand. We have tried our best to hold the line on any increases, and internally we have absorbed around 250 to 350 dollars in cost already). We want to have an honest conversation about these costs as we start rolling them out starting later next week.
Other items
1. Launched ATOM, an m600 based city commuter. Great riding characteristics. You can order one here : https://wattwagons.com/products/atom . We are doing the painting starting next week, and 3-seed hubs are coming in mid-late April. Delivery starts early May.
2. ATOM will be stock Bafang controller (500W) at this price point, we will add the new controller option in June / July, to take it up to 750W nominal (1100W peak).
Edit: clarified the price change effective date to Jan 1st, 2021.
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Let the Hydra builds begin.
