1st time (and clueless) buyer seeking guidance

jeremy8000

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Hey everyone, hoping to gain some input, advice, and recommendations on an ebike. The way I see it is, the more info I can provide, the more accurate a recommendation can be had, so here's a few things about me and what I'm looking to be able to do...

While I rode a bike as a teenager, I probably haven't spent more than 2 hours total on a bike in the past 25 years. But I do believe in the adage 'its like riding a bike' and have very good balance, so don't anticipate it being too tough to get the muscle memory back.

50 years old, 6' tall, about 245 lbs (regrettably that's the very out-of-shape 245, not the muscular one). Aside from being overweight, only other health issue to consider is modest lower back pain. I would be unlikely to ever carry more than an additional 20 lbs of 'whatever' with me on the bike. I'm not the most nimble guy, so would prefer to avoid bikes with a high stepover required to mount/dismount.

I'm looking for an e-bike to begin getting in some exercise and more time outdoors, and am also considering riding to work (about 16 miles each way) when weather is accommodating, so would want something that would comfortable and reliably afford that round trip range at about 20mph. I certainly wouldn't object to a class 3 if budget permits and it ticks the other boxes, especially if I'm right in understanding that those are typically better built to withstand the stresses I would be putting on it at my weight. With the minor back issues, I am guessing a more upright riding position would likely be more comfortable and less likely to cause issues there.

I live in a coastal area with basically completely flat terrain, and don't anticipate doing any off-road riding other than when riding on dirt on the side of the road in some areas - about 2 miles of that work commute.

I am generally mechanically incompetent, so a bike with high reliability and low maintenance are probably going to be pretty important. I do like the idea of a throttle, but not an absolute must - but the bike should be manageable rideable without any power assist in the event I overestimate the remaining battery.

Budget-wise, I would like to stay in the $1,500 USD range. I could go a little more if truly justified.

I'm in a small market, with 2 shops locally that have more than a model or 2 in stock - they carry Bintelli and iZip respectively. I don't see much written about either of them and they seem to, from my admittedly uneducated perspective, offer a very, very steep dropoff in bang-for-the-buck compared to online offerings (though obviously they have the intangible value of being far more likely to support what they sell, and do have models to test drive).

Thanks in advance for any suggestions as far as those 2 brands and whether it's worthily to take the lesser bike for presumably greater support, and in either case recommendations of any bikes that would likely fit my needs (or, since it's really not feasible to test drive a mail order bike, if either Bintelli or iZip have a model whose frame matches to a better online model that I could gain a good expectation).
 
Welcome. There are many many e-bikes out there, but budget might be a limiting factor. I would look at www.Radpowerbikes.com. Lots to choose from that might fit your needs. I'm sure others will recommend other companies. Best of luck.
 
A 6' person should fit most medium & large size bikes, which is most of the stock for sale. 19" 20" 21" frames.
Izip forum has 202 threads, there should be plenty of opinions there: https://electricbikereview.com/forums/forum/izip/
buruni forum has 2 posts, under the same "bikes by brand" heading.
Online you can get bikes with imitation steel wheels, plastic cranks that can't be replaced, custom patented batteries that cost as much as the bike to replace after 500 charges. Or a high quality bike like the yuba left, that is running $3200 these days + freight.
Many of the cheaper bikes don't have enough frame behind the seat to keep a Wald basket from bumping into the tire. They tend to rock from side to side. I carry 2 tubes, air pump, 5 lb tools at all times in the bag. Plus rain gear. A wald basket will take an akro bin to keep things from falling through. I can change a punctured tube in <40 minutes, by turning bike upside down on handlebars & seat. Look at display mounts, many prevent the bike from resting upside down. I dispensed with mine.
Read the rad "known problems" thread before jumping in. I'm particularly contemptuous of the recommendation to "torque check the spokes monthly". My bike left has 5000 miles, no loose spokes. I conclude the steel yubabought, although it came from a country known for fraud, is real.
Round trip range of 32 miles means in summer a 17 AH battery might work, at 40 deg F more like 21 or 24 AH would be required. 20 mph consumes about 33% more watthours than 8 mph I ride. At that speed you'll need front suspension at least or fat tires, which I hear are hard to change on the road. Either option runs the price way up. I like 26" wheels for ability to take a pothole without rattling my teeth.People do ride 20" tires, presumably in cities where potholes are patched the same day. Tall people can ride 700 mm wheels, which are trendy these days.
Flat terrain allows DD hub motors to perform, which are quite cheap. They do drag power off, as to all mid drives except yamaha, shimano, and brose. Mid drives wear chains faster than the 5000 miles I got out of my hub motor yuba, recently. I ride a geared hub motor that allows me to pedal without drag when I want to, which is most of the time unless headwind is >12 mph or on long trips beyond the 26th mile. My hips get painful after 3 hours on the saddle.
At 20 mph in the rain, you'll seriously need disk brakes. mechanical disks are fine, hydraulic disks are trendy but require IMHO professional maintenance when the pad needs changing. I seriously disrespect the performance of rim brakes in the rain. I hit the side of a car that ran a stop sign once coming off a dead stop myself, in the rain.
 
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Thanks everyone for the fast input!

@jaizon, I've looked at the Radpower site a few times. Of the bikes there, looking at their sizing, the RadMini4 seems (somewhat counterintuitively, given the "mini" monicker) to be the best fit in most areas.

Only real concerns for that would be (1) while it's not using 4" fat tires, at 3.3" will that still wear too fast with mostly street riding, or is it actually a good compromise for improving traction/breaking, comfort, and (2) does the folding ability substantially detract from the durability.

If the answer to the second is no... I would rarely see myself wanting to fold it, but the ability to load the bike into the truck of my car on occasion - or if I need to get service for it - has some definite appeal.

@indianjo, thanks for the link! On looking at iZip's site, seems like they're not offering any bikes recommended for people over 5'9". Strange. The other company was actually Bintelli, and there are 0 posts in that forum. Turns out their HQ is actually in my city, which could be a big plus, but not finding any reviews from people that aren't likely 'interested parties'. I don't plan on commuting to work on days where there's any chance of rain, but "the best laid plans of mine and men..."

Certainly Radpower is an established company with a solid reputation for support. Addmotor looked interesting but definitely appears to be lacking in the latter regard. Juiced CrossCurrent S2 also looks very interesting with evidently tons of power, reasonably ample range, and (from what I'm gathering, the preferable) torque-based PAS, hydraulic brakes, 750w motor - just don't know if those enhancements are worth stretching my budget.
 
Watch Micah's video in this thread...

He hasn't ridden all the bikes available in your price range, no one has that kind of time. For commuting, I wouldn't go with a Radmini. You don't change flats very quickly with a fat tire bike, plus you'll be changing to quieter tires anyway. Consider the Ride1up, or look at the Aventon.

I own two fat tire bikes, 26" and 20" and both electric. I prefer my skinny tire e-bikes for pavement. So does Micah if you watch his review. Not saying fat tires are not fun. They are, in the way that a noisey sports car is fun.
 
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