1st post. Vendor! Hi!

[arta]

Hi, all!
Just going through the conventional intro-post.
I'm a vendor hawking his wares! ;-) Not really. I have gobs of bike-commuting experience, though not on ebikes. (For ebikes, I've basically done kit installations and testing.) I'd be happy to help from that experience, subject to the miniscule time I theoretically have available! <sigh>

 

[Taylor57]

Hi, all!
Just going through the conventional intro-post.
I'm a vendor hawking his wares! ;-) Not really. I have gobs of bike-commuting experience, though not on ebikes. (For ebikes, I've basically done kit installations and testing.) I'd be happy to help from that experience, subject to the miniscule time I theoretically have available! <sigh>

Ok, I'll bite, tell us about your wares...

 

[arta]

Thanks for the reply, and the sense of humour. I'll match! ;-)
I told the admin that I'll post in the Dealers thread; per (he/she/per) was kind enough to let me in through the front door.
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IIRC/AFAIK, that forum doesn't take comments, so I'll sum it up here; I'd love to hear feedback, take the stinging barbs and lacerations!
It's a new theft-deterrent. A beefy siren, heard from 100 meters/yards, controlled by an intelligent computer. You padlock it to the object you want to protect, ensuring that it hangs freely.
For bikes, the best approach is to U-lock the top bar to an anchor, then padlock the device to the U-lock. The site in my profile shows an image and video. (Caution: the latter is a bit screamy!)
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Note: This has been designed and manufactured by a solo, unfunded engineer. So, don't expect polish. It's just the raw basics to get the job done. 99% of what's gone into it is invisible in its physical manifestation.
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The current version uses a motion sensor. If it does generate revenue, future versions (planned for 2024+) will use additional sensors.

 

[JRA]

I have always been interested in the concept of a motion sensing alarm as a bicycle theft deterrent. Fortunately where I live and rider here I don't have to lock my bike up very often but I think your unfunded engineer is on to a good thing. My son lives in East Van and could use one though!

 

[arta]

I have always been interested in the concept of a motion sensing alarm as a bicycle theft deterrent. Fortunately where I live and rider here I don't have to lock my bike up very often but I think your unfunded engineer is on to a good thing. My son lives in East Van and could use one though!

There are lots of such (motion-sensing) alarms. They typically go for $10-$50 CAD. It's not a new concept. But they're dumb--just a bunch of electronics triggering on movement. You can manually adjust the sensitivity, but then they either become hyper or they miss subtle attacks (eg unmounting them)!
And they're only beepers. Regardless of the 120 dB etc they claim, a small size means puny loudness. That might startle me and you, sitting at home, or when testing them within hearing range of the neighbours; but they'll have zero effect on a guy desperate for quick cash.
Mine has a large siren, and a huge amount of firmware analyzing all the movements; it's the first of its kind. The videos show sneaky attacks (slow rolling, gentle lifting, attempts at disassembly, removing the front wheel) as well as violent ones (bolt cutter, angle grinder--though, admittedly, there's not a lot one can do about the latter).
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I was puzzled by the phrase, "your unfunded engineer"; I thought you're replying to someone else. _I_ am the unfunded engineer! Plus vendor, manufacturer, sales, support, accountant, architect, designer, coder, tester, etc etc etc.
As for East Van: Yes, all of Vancouver (BC) has a huge problem. Most of it is casual-but-widespread, but there are organized gangs as well. MTB/DH (single-track) used to be the high-prize game; now, ebikes and cargo bikes.
If, where you are, there's no need for locking bikes, there may be for ATVs, tractors and such. Hanging this from the bottom (or such hidden location) could help with all the thefts of agricultural/recreational equipment.

 

[Prairie Dog]

Welcome. At this point in time, I don’t require the need for a such a device but I do like the idea of utilizing it for other applications as you so mentioned. Kudos.

 

[arta]

Welcome. At this point in time, I don’t require the need for a such a device but I do like the idea of utilizing it for other applications as you so mentioned. Kudos.

Thanks for the welcome!
Funny you should mention other applications: I was reading about an ATV theft around Red Deer. And the Prairies and elsewhere.
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I'm assuming your Lithium doesn't handle your winters. I've wondered what e-riders do, out East, or in the Prairies/North. I've done a lot of ice-biking; even a regular bike has trouble!

 

[Prairie Dog]

Yeah, lots of petty theft occurring particularly in the rural areas.

So far my Levo has been performing well during the winter season and stays indoors post ride. ISPs are awesome on hard pack and ice, not so good in the deeper stuff though. The bike show is coming to Calgary next month. Will you be attending the show in Vancouver?

 

[Taylor57]

There are lots of such (motion-sensing) alarms. They typically go for $10-$50 CAD. It's not a new concept. But they're dumb--just a bunch of electronics triggering on movement. You can manually adjust the sensitivity, but then they either become hyper or they miss subtle attacks (eg unmounting them)!
And they're only beepers. Regardless of the 120 dB etc they claim, a small size means puny loudness. That might startle me and you, sitting at home, or when testing them within hearing range of the neighbours; but they'll have zero effect on a guy desperate for quick cash.
Mine has a large siren, and a huge amount of firmware analyzing all the movements; it's the first of its kind. The videos show sneaky attacks (slow rolling, gentle lifting, attempts at disassembly, removing the front wheel) as well as violent ones (bolt cutter, angle grinder--though, admittedly, there's not a lot one can do about the latter).
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I was puzzled by the phrase, "your unfunded engineer"; I thought you're replying to someone else. _I_ am the unfunded engineer! Plus vendor, manufacturer, sales, support, accountant, architect, designer, coder, tester, etc etc etc.
As for East Van: Yes, all of Vancouver (BC) has a huge problem. Most of it is casual-but-widespread, but there are organized gangs as well. MTB/DH (single-track) used to be the high-prize game; now, ebikes and cargo bikes.
If, where you are, there's no need for locking bikes, there may be for ATVs, tractors and such. Hanging this from the bottom (or such hidden location) could help with all the thefts of agricultural/recreational equipment.

Yeah, I have a cheap motion alarm mounted to my downtube. I think I paid 15 or 20 US awhile back. The only downside is that it eats AAA batteries. Also, sometimes I set it and forget about it and when it goes off, it annoys everyone around-usually in a bar or restaurant! Its a nice piece of mind when I take my bike to the golf range to hit balls and park my bike 40 or 50 yards away...

 

[arta]

I suppose depending upon the duration of your ride, the battery might be fine. I _am_ surprised, though. Do you ride below -10 C? -20 C?
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As for ISPs: I had to look them up! Integrated seat post? Since you mention hard pack, my first thought was studded tires.
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I went to the bike show a few years ago. Nothing in it for me, since I neither display nor buy: I have too many bikes, already, and a whistler pass would be more of a want!

 

[Prairie Dog]

Coldest I was out this winter was -31C not factoring in the wind chill though the ride only lasted an hour. Schwalbe Ice Spiker Pros (ISP) are what I ride on.

I've never attended the show before but I'll likely just peruse the aisles. A day at whistler sounds far more inviting though.

 

[arta]

Yeah, I have a cheap motion alarm mounted to my downtube. I think I paid 15 or 20 US awhile back. The only downside is that it eats AAA batteries. Also, sometimes I set it and forget about it and when it goes off, it annoys everyone around-usually in a bar or restaurant! Its a nice piece of mind when I take my bike to the golf range to hit balls and park my bike 40 or 50 yards away...

For AAA batteries, I just use rechargeables. It feels a bit better!
For your usage (ie locked bike kept within eyesight, hopefully not in a theft-riddled neighbourhood), those alarms might suffice.
(I'm assuming that the bar scenario you're describing has to do with someone _innocently_ touching the bike.)

 

[tomjasz]

USELESS WITHOUT PICTURES!

Welcome by the way. Color me very curious.

 

[arta]

Coldest I was out this winter was -31C not factoring in the wind chill though the ride only lasted an hour. Schwalbe Ice Spiker Pros (ISP) are what I ride on.

I've never attended the show before but I'll likely just peruse the aisles. A day at whistler sounds far more inviting though.

I always quote with the wind chill included. It'd be not as meaningful otherwise!
Glad to hear that the ebike fared well at that temperature, even for an hour. This is very good news.
ISP: Yes, studded. I no longer need them, since I moved out of ON/QC. I used to have multiple winter bikes; so, I used studs only when needed.

 

[tomjasz]

 

[arta]

USELESS WITHOUT PICTURES!

Welcome by the way. Color me very curious.

Thanks, though I don't understand the first phrase. Are you implying that I should've posted pix? If so, I was just trying to tread delicately, since I'm a vendor. The link is in my profile. I'd be very grateful to anyone that'd click the video: I am desperate for view-counts (to feed the youtube beast ^H algorithm with).
I'd be happy to post a pic, if you think it'd be kosher.

 

[arta]

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I'm the one on the right.

 

[tomjasz]

Just post on the vendor page, easy peasy!

 

[JRA]

I guess I wasn't clear that a "well engineered" alarm was needed. I discount all the 120db ones that you mention also as basically ineffective and glad you have upped the bar for yours. Also apologize for not reading between the lines about your status as the "man".

Unfortunately where I live any type of loud alarm would not be helpful as there is no one around to hear it. We do have proximity notification alarms to our devices installed though.

 

[arta]

Just post on the vendor page, easy peasy!

I've read mentions of the "vendor page", but I've not browsed such yet. I'll post to the Dealers forum, though I'm in the middle of something else, so that got postponed to later. I'll check out the categories/forums in a minute. Thanks!