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Trek Domane+ ALR -Lower end version of Domane+ -300 Series verus 500 Series Aluminium frameset -Shimano 105 Mechanical Groupset (except cranks which remain FSA) - No front/Rear lights on the promo material) - $4999.9 (US), £3500 (UK) Unrelated Sales of Ebikes in UK have almost ceased - UK...

FlatSix911 - I can't see a segment in the 2021 lineup where the Yamaha units would be a competitive alternative to existing SKUs e-boy - The 2019 Yamaha PW-TE [60NM/3.4KG ] may be a difficult choice versus 2020 Bosch Active L [85NM/2.9KG]

Re-summarising the models - Bosch Gen3 > Fazua Evation - 63NM > 55NM Toque (Downgrade) - Weight Gain3KG / 5lb (Upgrade) - Carbon Seatpost - SRAM > Shimano R8000 - Ability to cycle without the battery attached (Upgrade) But the cover is EXTRA LT+ 4.9k...

Rumours for the European Market - 2021 Allant+7/8/9.9 No Change Domane+ LT No Change Domane+ HP No Change (i.e. for select European Markets, Excludes UK) Bosch No information of Gen5 in 2021 - Updated Nyon display & COBI App Fazua Evation...

Trek Domane+ LT 2020 - Replaces Domane+ - The e-train is Fazua Evation replacing Bosch - It appears that that the Evation is the 2020 verison, which brings the motor into the powepack , which is integrated into the downtube - The Evation features a removable power-pack allowing a rider to ride...

The Domane+LT is ~ 5k USD vs the Creo 10kUSD - so good luck in choosing! For everyone else: The Domane+LT is an updated model of the Domane+ - The e-train is Fazua Evation replacing Bosch - It appears that that the Evation is the 2020 verison, which brings the motor into the powepack , which...

Butter smooth in France, suspension useful in England's cities where roads are less maintained, frequent clunky sounds, infrequent mechanical issues, next update for Domane+ in 2021, but competition also have ideas....

For EU Onwers: Bosch have the software (of which there is no legal requirement) in certain updates to detect changes in their motors which, if a dealer reports it, will Invalidate the warranty - obviously Riding with a de-restrict tool over the EU 15.5kph / UK 16kph when your not on private...

Some of the 2020 models in UK are of the 2019 displays and motors Correction PURION - I'm looking into the Intuvia Upgrade Kit Yes i'm refering to 1 of the 2 markets the Domane+ is aimed -the road market not the touring market hence the comparrison with ebikemotion. I do think the motor make...

I think the misconception comes with the commonality of throttle without PAS and hence some of the replies This doesn;t address your question but There is - in whichever market, and need for thottle / twist-and-go bikes without PAS, as a commute option - where getting to a office/meeting...

Thanks, I wil look at that and so more testing - i'm unsure of what i am hearing is chain rub The only thing that is a downside with the domane+ is the weight - 17KG compare to 3 competitors based on ebikemotion which are aournd 12kg (Orbea, Colnago, Pinarello). The new Bosch motors appear to...

Is there an upgrade path to replace the Intuvia with a Nyon ? The UK model of Domane+ on the Intuvia, does not strobe FYI

Are you comparing 'like-for-like' ? A bike that require Insurance, Helmut vs .... A Tourer versus a Hybrid.... A Rear Hub versus Mid Drive... It appears by what you have wrote on the Stormer that you may be going for that I looked at the Stormer, the company credentials long term in the UK and...

Trek models have 3-year lifecycles