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Yes, but the HPR120 is not a natural feel, next generation type of motor. And it is loud. It is not what I am hoping for, a HPR50 x 2

I did a ride of the Trek TQ mountain bike and it is really quiet which I loved. I was hoping it would feel stronger , but wasn’t sure what to expect, compared to my Stromers. TQ motor is tiny tiny so wishing for a 500 + watt version which would still be small. It will be very interesting to...

Like new Stromer ST5 for sale. Only 500 miles. Flagship model with all ultra premium components: - Di2 E shifting —XTR - M99 Pro lighting - Swiss DT wheels - 983 wH battery Etc Showroom condition. Medium frame Located in Minnesota but can ship to US locations $5,400. Save thousands vs a new ST5

IMO, hub drives AND mid drives without a throttle are bicycles. Hub drives AND mid drives with a throttle….. they are electric mopeds. No pedaling necessary Our state of MN also uses that as the legal definition of bikes allowed to use official bike paths. It does not matter where the...

I totally understand how mid drives use the gear reduction to get more torque BUT a quality hub electric motor doesn’t really need a transmission/ gears. Look at diesel electro locomotives. They pull 150 tons from a dead stop, via electric motors, and no 12 speed trannies required. That’s the...

B.S. alert on this article. “Bosch mid drives 70-80% efficiency and hub drives 30%. “ 😵‍💫 Where did that come from? A direct drive hub motor with no loses getting to the drive wheel vs mid drive with gears or belt and then sprocket chain transfer….. Gee, does he happen to sell mid drives...

@SC00CHB00CH , I wanted to compare 500 watt systems, can mid drive 500 W climb at 20 mph? Your 1280 watts better be able to blast up hills. My point was to counter the hub drive stereotype that they cannot climb…..

Mid drives can multiple their torque (nM or ft/lbs) BUT there is no free lunch. When they multiply torque (let’s say 10X) their speed/ angular velocity is 1/10. Power stays the same ….you just geared way down for more torque. A 500 watt motor only has 500 watts, period. My experience with a...

Comparing a Stromer 500 watt (ST2-S) to a Trek TQ 250 watt mid ?? Anybody experience both? I just tested a Trek TQ mtn bike…TQ, weighs 20 pounds less so expected decent performance. I thought the acceleration and performance were well below my expectations… The TQ was quiet and smooth, but...

Comparing a Stromer 500 watt (ST2-S) to a Trek Duplicate post, sorry

Years ago had a modulating motorcycle headlight. More than once, a car in front of me pulled over, thinking I was police…… And I usually let them off without a ticket, if a bribe was offered jk 😉 💰

Bright lights in daylight really get attention and add a big safety boost…. not perfect but every bit helps. My Stromer has Supernova M99 Pro headlight and taillight. On a charity ride with “crossing guards” at busy highways a guard stopped me to say that he saw me coming a half mile away! Big...

Anyone with a Stromer, especially ST2-S or ST5, also have experience with the lightweight and lower power speed bikes like the Domane + lineup? The 2023 Domane + with TQ motor seems like a real winner. Anyone with TQ experience? I find most mids loud compared to Stromer hub so that supposed...

TQ Motor off resistance: I saw one tech article on the TQ system which said the only drag without motor was the case seals. They said it was very little drag.

True, but trying to balance the “mids are better mantra” , when they don’t compare best mids to best hubs. Mid lovers go with generalizations that mids are better, period. I would agree that many mids work better but comparing best mids to best hubs….. one needs to take a long hard look at...

As a analog road biker who rode 6000 miles a year, in Minnesota with a 7 month season, I know very well how to shift a manual bike tranny. I will repeat my experience of testing all brands and never finding a mid that feels as natural as my hub Stromers. It feels like you with the legs of Mark...

The video seemed to not tell the whole story, showed a bias toward mid drives. If you are buying an E bike, not building, and it’s a road bike/ not a mtn E bike, then it’s a much different comparison. I disagree with a couple important points: - Mids are more reliable … can break chains but...

Hi, I have a couple rides in on my new ST2-S , stored from new until recently. Damn, it is a urban warrior that is fast and agile. On street bike lanes and bike paths that were like roller coasters in the woods, it rocked. 22 mph average speed and a really fun ride. I just sold my other ST2-S...

Pedal power rules, and with supplemental battery power that feels like it is all you, that is the ultimate E bike or E kayak. Stromer has that feel dialed in.

We now need a Red Bull E-kayak that utilizes that big boy ST7 battery….and has a supplemental pedal system to jointly power a propeller.