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[GMA52]

Question, my bike has a Shimano Altus 8 gear system. Will a Shimano 11 gear Quick link work on the chain or do I have to find an 8 gear Quick Link?

 

[PCeBiker]

Question, my bike has a Shimano Altus 8 gear system. Will a Shimano 11 gear Quick link work on the chain or do I have to find an 8 gear Quick Link?

No.
The chain gets thinner as the sprocket count goes up so the quick link needs to get thinner too.
It's very speed specific.

Check for a brand name on your chain.
My chains are KMC so I bought KMC Missing Links,..

The Missing Link is good for 6, 7, & 8 speed chains, so it would most likely fit your chain.

KMC calls their Quick Link a Missing Link.
I always thought that this was the Missing Link??,..

I wonder if that ½ ape ½ human is thinking about chain lube ?

 

[PCeBiker]

I found a picture of a gay child Missing Link,...

There's lots of things to learn from the internet.
It's CNN Certified

 

[GMA52]

I found a picture of a gay child Missing Link,...


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There's lots of things to learn from the internet.
It's CNN Certified

Well if it is CNN certified you know it’s got to be right

 

[Gionnirocket]

Homo erectus always scared me

 

[PCeBiker]

So, anyway,..

Another other thing that I did when I first got my first ebike was to remove all the nuts and bolts and put loctite on the threads as suggested by @Court who used to own this forum.

Then @m@Robertson said that he uses Anti-seize so I switched to that.

Then @Gionnirocket 's alter ego called me a liberal and said that I should just use regular grease.

I've kept using the Anti-seize but I don't use it liberally.
All you need is a little bit.


You need to choose your Anti-seize carefully too. There's many different colors and flavors,..

Looking at the list now, I think I bought the wrong one?
Maybe I shoulda bought the aluminum version?
My frame is aluminum but my bolts are stainless steel.

I don't know what to do??

And the regular Loctite has lots of flavors too.
Blue and red are the most common with the blue being removeable and the red being permanent.

I went with the hybrid orange flavor because I want to be able to work with my nuts without having to heat them up too hot or force them off.

I can use my regular regular hand tools to get off.

 

[PCeBiker]

Ohh no no.... You can not sweat the small stuff. And this is nano_micro

Picking out the right lubes and loctites is no small task !!

I think we should start a discussion on the virtues of All the different types.

Let's make a mountain out of this mole hill.

 

[Gionnirocket]

I try not to keep dozens of products around and use what I have even if it's not the absolute best... unless that is, it's mission critical.
So a light grease works just as well as anti seize for me and I've never had an issue. The dreaded freewheel has never beat me or broken a tool. And when removed the grease was still intact.
Loctite blue on bike has never come loose or been difficult to remove.
ymmv

 

[GMA52]

Well if it is CNN certified you know it’s got to be right

No.
The chain gets thinner as the sprocket count goes up so the quick link needs to get thinner too.
It's very speed specific.

Check for a brand name on your chain.
My chains are KMC so I bought KMC Missing Links,..


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The Missing Link is good for 6, 7, & 8 speed chains, so it would most likely fit your chain.

KMC calls their Quick Link a Missing Link.
I always thought that this was the Missing Link??,..

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I wonder if that ½ ape ½ human is thinking about chain lube ?

It is the same KMC Narrow Z chain as yours.

 

[Gionnirocket]

It is the same KMC Narrow Z chain as yours.

When it's time to replace... The X series is a slight upgrade and usually for just about the same price.
Plus I like the two_tone look of the Silver/Grey version.


I might try one myself even with my now more powerful mid_drive just for that reason
That said the E8 is proving to be indestructible.

 

[PCeBiker]

It is the same KMC Narrow Z chain as yours.

Ten bucks for two in the USA.



Quite a bit more in Canada

KMC 8 Speed Missinglink Joining Link, Silver, 2 Pairs : Amazon.ca: Tools & Home Improvement

KMC 8 Speed Missinglink Joining Link, Silver, 2 Pairs : Amazon.ca: Tools & Home Improvement

a.co

 

[PCeBiker]

When it's time to replace... The X series is a slight upgrade and usually for just about the same price.

That said the E8 is proving to be indestructible.

Here's some of what Amazon.com and Amazon.ca have to offer for KMC 8 speed chains,..

It looks like the e8 is ebike specific, and a better chain than the X8 (based on the price, but it could be a scam. )



@GMA52 keep in mind that we have hub drives, and the chain isn't nearly as important as on a mid-drive.
As long as it doesn't rust out, it should last as long as your ebike.

Chain stretch measurement tools really aren't necessary.
(But it's a fun tool to have. I might get one. )

 

[Gionnirocket]

Here's some of what Amazon.com and Amazon.ca have to offer for KMC 8 speed chains,..

It looks like the e8 is ebike specific, and a better chain than the X8 (based on the price, but it could be a scam. )

No... The E8 is definitely better as I have owned both. That said with a hub drive it may be overkill.

 

[PCeBiker]

I try not to keep dozens of products around and use what I have even if it's not the absolute best... unless that is, it's mission critical.

I spent hundreds of dollars on fancy airplane and jet fighter lubes and sprays.

I like collecting glues and tape too.
I still need to get some helicopter tape.
If it's good enough to build a , then it's good enough for my e-bike.

So a light grease works just as well as anti seize for me and I've never had an issue.
Loctite blue on bike has never come loose or been difficult to remove.
ymmv

I spent $167 CAD on my very special torque wrench that I finally got a chance to use to reassemble my motor, but I couldn't find the damn torque specs for the bolts.

So I ended up using Blue Loctite, Silver Anti-seize, and Black RTV silicone.

None of the bolts fell out, and it looks to be sealed up pretty good.

I still haven't used my fancy torque wrench.
Wanna buy it ??

 

[Gionnirocket]

I spent hundreds of dollars on fancy airplane and jet fighter lubes and sprays.

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I like collecting glues and tape too.
I still need to get some helicopter tape.
If it's good enough to build a , then it's good enough for my e-bike.





I spent $167 CAD on my very special torque wrench that I finally got a chance to use to reassemble my motor, but I couldn't find the damn torque specs for the bolts.


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So I ended up using Blue Loctite, Silver Anti-seize, and Black RTV silicone.

None of the bolts fell out, and it looks to be sealed up pretty good.


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I still haven't used my fancy torque wrench.
Wanna buy it ??

You Lube Whore!

 

[PedalUma]

Homo erectus always scared me
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That's my mom. But why do you have her picture in your wallet? And I see that you photoshopped it to remove her cigarette.

She only uses anti-seize whenever she has convulsions and spaz attacks.

My favorite grease is automotive brake parts grease. It is high temp and is waterproof silicone. It is great for stuff like nylon gears and O-rings. It is tacky so it will hold things like washers in place during assembly.

 

[John from Connecticut]

Hey ECeBiker, do you have hills where you ride? In my world I would be terrified going downhill with your rig

Wow, With the second battery, so high extending well into the
'center of gravity' plus the huge primary battery 'getting up there', plus your body mass ,this setup
would concern me, stability wise.

There's enough weight high up for the batteries to have a 'mind of their own' (momentum) should
a dangerous situation occur. I'm not an engineer. Just my 2 cents.

John

 

[PCeBiker]

Wow, With the second battery, so high extending well into the
'center of gravity' plus the huge primary battery 'getting up there', plus your body mass ,this setup
would concern me, stability wise.

There's enough weight high up for the batteries to have a 'mind of their own' (momentum) should
a dangerous situation occur. I'm not an engineer. Just my 2 cents.

John

Oh yeah, my bike is messed up good.
I got all kinds of wrong goin on.

It's kinda strange that I can ride it at all, let alone ride it no-hands 90% of the time?

It was a lot worse with the battery on the rear rack, but moving it forward and getting it fully suspended made a Huge difference.

Wow ,this setup
would concern me, stability wise.

My e-bike is a heavy pig at almost 100 pounds, but it's still 150 pounds lighter than my dirt bike was, and 400 pounds lighter than my street bike motorcycle was.

I was 100 pounds heavier myself about 15 years ago, and I keep wondering how that would affect things?

I only added a 15 pound battery and raised the front end a few inches.
You'd think a rider that's 100 pounds heavier would have more impact on stability and mass being above the center of grabity?

 

[PCeBiker]

My favorite grease is automotive brake parts grease. It is high temp and is waterproof silicone. It is great for stuff like nylon gears and O-rings. It is tacky so it will hold things like washers in place during assembly.

I love that s*it !
I put it on everything !!

There's two types of brake grease though.
I only had regular brake grease (dino grease) and Anti-seize then spent the $40 for the Sil-Glyde.

I previously had to grease the slider pins on my brakes twice a year, but the Sil-Glide lasted for three years.

Interestingly, silicone grease isn't compatible with silicone rubber, it tends to dissolve the rubber.
And regular grease (and oil) isn't compatible with regular rubber for the same reason.

You can use either grease on Urethane rubber.

 

[PedalUma]

I am dealing with the biggest pain in the butt because everything is so small and there is no room to work. There are like 60 1/2 mm wires in a spaghetti mess to replace an internal controller, no room, and if one gets crimped I am screwed. One did break and I had to solder a work around. The more I move the wires the more brittle they become.