Specialized Turbo Vado SL: An Incredible E-Bike (User Club)

[Rás Cnoic]

Decided to look up what Amflows sales for 25 internationally were like, given it was launched in Europe last summer (24) but low and behold the wonderful dysfunctional bike industry does not issue annual sales lists, unlike the car industry say, preferring to keep things tight lipped (its such a paranoid jittery basket case of an industry as the last few boom to bust cycles have shown) so you can't tell how big the Amflow/Dji actual inroads to the industry has been. But certainly in UK, it's the bike & motor system that's been getting all the press. I'd love to actually know if it translates to sales, or is a nice journey type bubble with most EMTBs still being Giant, Trek Spesh etc.

or is a nice journey type

Groan - niche, journo, type bubble.

 

[Stefan Mikes]

Wait, are you saying that narrow thinking in rigid categories doesn't actually get the job done? Some of our members will be very disappointed.

There was a GCN Tech video recently. Two guys started in a Cyclocross race and they had to share a CX as well as a gravel bike. Turned out, changing to the gravel bike made one of the guys lose the race he could have won. Every tool has its purpose.

 

[stompandgo]

Decided to look up what Amflows sales for 25 internationally were like, given it was launched in Europe last summer (24) but low and behold the wonderful dysfunctional bike industry does not issue annual sales lists, unlike the car industry say, preferring to keep things tight lipped (its such a paranoid jittery basket case of an industry as the last few boom to bust cycles have shown) so you can't tell how big the Amflow/Dji actual inroads to the industry has been. But certainly in UK, it's the bike & motor system that's been getting all the press. I'd love to actually know if it translates to sales, or is a nice journey type bubble with most EMTBs still being Giant, Trek Spesh etc.

Admittedly, our market is skewed towards the high end, where a lot of customers just want what they want or what they perceive, or are told, is best for them. The three main competitors to AMFLOW that we sell are Orbea, Mondraker, and Cannondale. Many of the owners of these bikes want a DJI bike ASAP.

Another niche market that we cater to is E-MTB racing. We have a shop sponsored team that race all over New England. Two of the riders are really good. One is on a Moterra, and the other is on a Levo (Specialized forum reference ). They are racing against two AMFLOW bikes and cannot beat them. They take 3rd and 5th, or 3rd and 4th, at every race. They can hang with them on the flats and on rolling terrain, but when there's a sustained climb, the AMFLOW guys hit the button and the race is over.

 

[BioWheel]

It would be wildly impractical to design and mfr a bike with batteries stuck all over the place along with the wiring, charging control logic, etc. that goes along with them, not to mention how you'd get to the inside of places like the top tube for service.

Maybe but I was at a bike dealer recently and frames now have small compartments near the motor or even in the top and bottom tubes built in. And batteries don't need that much service. Mine has never been removed and bike has 13000m.

 

[Stefan Mikes]

Maybe but I was at a bike dealer recently and frames now have small compartments near the motor or even in the top and bottom tubes built in. And batteries don't need that much service. Mine has never been removed and bike has 13000m.

Any battery has its end of service. It must be removed and properly disposed.

 

[Stefan Mikes]

Levo

Gen 4?

 

[stompandgo]

Gen 4?

Unknown. I'll check. The next meeting is in January.