New bike advice

Fdnavy

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Hello all new to the ebike world. I’m looking for a bike. I’m a bigger guy at 6’ 260. I live in Northeast PA so there are lots of hills. I’m interested mostly in something I can ride on rail trails, fire roads and the like. So I guess a gravel touring hybrid. I am looking at Giant Explore E+ 2.0, Specialized Tero 3.0 and one of the M2S bikes. How do the direct to consumer bikes compare. Price wise they are close to the giant and specialized bikes I’m looking at. Giant seems a little easier to get as I can’t find the specialized in stock. Ideally 2000 or so but the more i look the more I am learning that’s probably not gonna happen. Any words of advice?
 
My advice would be to keep reading and keep asking questions. Big guy here to (6'2"/315) and my personal advice for riding hills would be to stay with the larger available motors.

Rail trails are generally pretty tame from a power requirements perspective, but my bet is in your area there are some trails that run off those that will challenge the best.
 
Hello all new to the ebike world. I’m looking for a bike. I’m a bigger guy at 6’ 260. I live in Northeast PA so there are lots of hills. I’m interested mostly in something I can ride on rail trails, fire roads and the like. So I guess a gravel touring hybrid. I am looking at Giant Explore E+ 2.0, Specialized Tero 3.0 and one of the M2S bikes. How do the direct to consumer bikes compare. Price wise they are close to the giant and specialized bikes I’m looking at. Giant seems a little easier to get as I can’t find the specialized in stock. Ideally 2000 or so but the more i look the more I am learning that’s probably not gonna happen. Any words of advice?
My suggestion would be to type in "new bike advice" in the search section and you will be instantly overwhelmed by thread after thread of newbies in your same boat. When in doubt, just buy one and ride it till it breaks or gets stolen...
 
Welcome to the forum! I'm also in northeast PA. near Honesdale and frequently ride rail trails in northern Lackawanna and Wayne counties. I'm 6' 2", 250# and ride a class 2 bike with a rear hub drive. I find it works well for the trails we have around here.

The best advice I can offer is to test ride as many bikes as you can get your hands on. I know it's difficult right now with many bike shops low on stock. Call ahead and travel if you must but test riding is the only way to know if a bike is right for you.

Keep in mind when shopping that things like tires, handlebars, grips, saddles and suspension seat posts can be easily added to almost any bike. You don't necessarily have to find one on the showroom floor equipped with everything you want.

If you are handy with tools and are comfortable doing your own work, then direct to consumer bikes can be an attractive possibility. If you prefer to have someone else work on your bike, check to be sure there is an LBS or a friend who can help with repairs on the brand you choose.

By all means, read, get advice and ask questions here on the forum but remember, everyone is different in their wants and needs when it comes to biking. The best bike is the one YOU like and one that fits your personal riding style.

Good luck with your search and keep us posted on your progress!
 
Welcome to the forum! I'm also in northeast PA. near Honesdale and frequently ride rail trails in northern Lackawanna and Wayne counties. I'm 6' 2", 250# and ride a class 2 bike with a rear hub drive. I find it works well for the trails we have around here.

The best advice I can offer is to test ride as many bikes as you can get your hands on. I know it's difficult right now with many bike shops low on stock. Call ahead and travel if you must but test riding is the only way to know if a bike is right for you.

Keep in mind when shopping that things like tires, handlebars, grips, saddles and suspension seat posts can be easily added to almost any bike. You don't necessarily have to find one on the showroom floor equipped with everything you want.

If you are handy with tools and are comfortable doing your own work, then direct to consumer bikes can be an attractive possibility. If you prefer to have someone else work on your bike, check to be sure there is an LBS or a friend who can help with repairs on the brand you choose.

By all means, read, get advice and ask questions here on the forum but remember, everyone is different in their wants and needs when it comes to biking. The best bike is the one YOU like and one that fits your personal riding style.

Good luck with your search and keep us posted on your progress!
Thanks for the detailed answer What bike shop would you recommend? What bike do you use? I’m leaning towards the specialized tero 3.0 (if I can find one) I’d love the 5.0 but probably out of my budget. Can you shed some light on motor size And battery? M2s claims they use a 900 watt hour battery with a 750 watt 160nm torque mid motor but specialized tero 5.0 uses a 250w 80 nm torque motor with a 700 wh battery. The 3.0 is even smaller at 250/50 with a 500wh battery. I can’t see how such a powerful motor would be on a much Cheaper bike. Is that motor and battery size enough for our area? Will I get 30ish miles out of it?
 
The low spec middrive bikes get less powerful motors and low spec gears eg 50nm and 9spd with 11-36t cassette. While high spec bike is likely to be 85nm motor plus 11spd 11-46t cassette or 12spd 10-51t.

NB a 50nm with 10-51t will climb almost anything even if slowly, but you won't find this combination.

For MTB 65nm with 11-46t would be fine, forest trails 65nm 11-42t.

Higher spec bikes also get better brakes ,suspension and larger battery.

Given your weight I'd consider 60-70nm motor + 10spd 11-42t minimum. You can always change cassette for 11-46t for that extra low gear if need be.

No advice can beat test riding a few different bikes ideally on steep hills.
 
Thanks for the detailed answer What bike shop would you recommend? What bike do you use? I’m leaning towards the specialized tero 3.0 (if I can find one) I’d love the 5.0 but probably out of my budget. Can you shed some light on motor size And battery? M2s claims they use a 900 watt hour battery with a 750 watt 160nm torque mid motor but specialized tero 5.0 uses a 250w 80 nm torque motor with a 700 wh battery. The 3.0 is even smaller at 250/50 with a 500wh battery. I can’t see how such a powerful motor would be on a much Cheaper bike. Is that motor and battery size enough for our area? Will I get 30ish miles out of it?
I do all my own bike repair work but occasionally visit Cedar Bikes on Pittston Ave. in Scranton. They sell Trek & Specialized and have a great mechanic.

I'm a Trek fan and have several of their non electric MTB's but all Trek e-bikes are class 1 with no throttle. Due to my arthritis, I ride a throttled class 2 bike. I don't use it often but it's gotten me home a couple of times when pedaling became difficult.

My wife and I ride class 2 Pedego Platinum Interceptors with throttles. I bought a third for friends & family to ride on outings. I bought them in NJ. since that was the closest Pedego dealer at the time. The Pedego's have 500 watt rear hub motors with 52V, 780 watt hour batteries. With a moderate amount of effort using PAS 2, we get 35 to 40 miles per charge on the local trails. Riding slower, below 12 MPH in PAS 1, we've gone 50 miles on a single charge. For longer rides, we carry spare batteries.

The Trek & Specialized bikes are class 1 mid drives which, due to the gearing advantage, use smaller motors. They actually get slightly more range per watt hour and can perform better on steeper hills. In general, the larger the watt hour rating of the battery the better the range. The voltage is less important.

The advantage of a rear hub motor is it can still propel the bike if there is a problem with the chain, derailleur, chain ring, crank or pedals. Such failures are rare but due to our age & health issues we bought hubs as a form of insurance.

Another consideration for me was weight. I'm 250 and often carry 40 - 50# of gear on some of my longer rides. A spare battery alone is 10#. That pushes the weight limit of most of the Trek & Specialized bikes I liked. The Pedego's have a mag wheel option which extends the weight limit to 400#. The mags also eliminate any potential spoke problems which plagued me on some of my earlier bikes.

Since I'm a DIY'er and do all my own work, I like the fact that Pedego will deal directly with the customer for warranty, advice & spare parts without having to go through a dealer. The closest is a 3 hour drive away so for me, this is a big advantage. Keep in mind there are other manufacturers who will do the same thing but not so much with Trek & Specialized.
 
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