Why I'll stick with Lectric and wait it out...

Stoneyrun

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Lectric Better Business Bureau Rating
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If they don't make orginal XPs anymore does that mean ours will be classics before we get them?
 
Personally, I like the clean frame lines w/o all the mounting points. But, yeah classics stoney. Brand new classics! Lol
 
How accurate is this? 🤔
Is BBB a place for people who had negative experience to report it?

I'm not trying to take Lectric's side at all, but when I searched for Rad Power (which I think is one of the best online ebike company in terms of customer service), they had 1.83/5 rating, which is pretty bad.

It also says Lectric had 1 complaint, which in my opinion, does not show statistically significant data.. because 1 person will be representing the entire experience for all the Lectric customers.
You could also look at it from the "only one complaint in thousands sold! Bet it was shipping issues..." perspective.
 
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Date founded: 1912
 
Accurately irate customers upset over waiting for so long. I call 'em Facebookers, but, that's probably a misgeneralization (if that's even a word) of all Facebook people. Wait, no it's not.
 
Accurately irate customers upset over waiting for so long. I call 'em Facebookers, but, that's probably a misgeneralization (if that's even a word) of all Facebook people. Wait, no it's not.
So 4 negative reviews this year. And what is really telling is that not one customer left a positive review. I guess after waiting so long customers are happy to have FINALLY received their bikes but not so happy to leave a positive review...
 
Never had any problems with Lectric. Any XP issues (a couple of very minor things) were handled quickly and professionally. Communication was great and I would recommend them in a heartbeat. The Gateway drug company of Electric bikes!
 
Did you get your Lectric in a timely manner? When I ordered their website indicated shipping WITHIN 3-4 weeks. I followed up after 2 weeks and was told to expect shipping around the 3 week mark. Now we're at nearly 8 weeks with many missed deadlines. I almost cancelled my order like all the other reviewers, but at this point it seems like shipping is imminent.

I also had some concern when the whole website was showing out of stock. Turns out it was because of the 2.0 but not knowing that gave some concern since they were sitting on my cash.

I see the same story both from posters here and obviously from the BBB reviews.

Lectric needs to find a way to keep their customers in the loop as to expected shipping times and set realistic expectations.

I will say I have never once had an e-mail or follow up from Lectric unless I initiated it.

Never had any problems with Lectric. Any XP issues (a couple of very minor things) were handled quickly and professionally. Communication was great and I would recommend them in a heartbeat. The Gateway drug company of Electric bikes!
 
A total of 28 container ships were anchored awaiting entry into the neighboring ports of Los Angeles and Long Beach, California, as of Sunday, compared with 26 a week earlier though still below a peak of 40 in early February, according to officials who monitor marine traffic in San Pedro Bay. Another 16 are scheduled to arrive over the next three days, with seven of those expected to drop anchor and join the queue.
 
Did you get your Lectric in a timely manner? When I ordered their website indicated shipping WITHIN 3-4 weeks. I followed up after 2 weeks and was told to expect shipping around the 3 week mark. Now we're at nearly 8 weeks with many missed deadlines. I almost cancelled my order like all the other reviewers, but at this point it seems like shipping is imminent.

I also had some concern when the whole website was showing out of stock. Turns out it was because of the 2.0 but not knowing that gave some concern since they were sitting on my cash.

I see the same story both from posters here and obviously from the BBB reviews.

Lectric needs to find a way to keep their customers in the loop as to expected shipping times and set realistic expectations.

I will say I have never once had an e-mail or follow up from Lectric unless I initiated it.

I got mine almost to the day they promised which back then I think was 6 or 8 weeks. (July or Aug of last year) Service from Lectric has been A+ for me...
 
A total of 28 container ships were anchored awaiting entry into the neighboring ports of Los Angeles and Long Beach, California, as of Sunday, compared with 26 a week earlier though still below a peak of 40 in early February, according to officials who monitor marine traffic in San Pedro Bay. Another 16 are scheduled to arrive over the next three days, with seven of those expected to drop anchor and join the queue.
So that's where our two XP Step-Thru's are!?!?! We ordered mid-April, so although excited to join the crowd our expectations are low given the backlogs. Just like a good bottle of Jefferson's Ocean we accept that our new XP's will have "aged at sea."
 
So that's where our two XP Step-Thru's are!?!?! We ordered mid-April, so although excited to join the crowd our expectations are low given the backlogs. Just like a good bottle of Jefferson's Ocean we accept that our new XP's will have "aged at sea."

Hopefully they don't have to stop at 5 different continents and cross the equator 4 times to get to you!!
 
not sure the BBB is relevant in the digital age anymore. most of the population by now has probably never heard of them. and as an earlier commenter said, 5 complaints is statistically insignificant. and if you don’t understand the context of the complaints (such as if they are misdirected supply chain gripes) then they are also not very useful. i’m old enough to know what the BBB used to be, but it’s not been something I reference ever. the BBB essentially was a trusted source back when snail mail was the most common form of consumer/industry communication and long before user reviews and the internet became the predominant means of community sourced and peer generated reviews like this forum...
 
not sure the BBB is relevant in the digital age anymore. most of the population by now has probably never heard of them. and as an earlier commenter said, 5 complaints is statistically insignificant. and if you don’t understand the context of the complaints (such as if they are misdirected supply chain gripes) then they are also not very useful. i’m old enough to know what the BBB used to be, but it’s not been something I reference ever. the BBB essentially was a trusted source back when snail mail was the most common form of consumer/industry communication and long before user reviews and the internet became the predominant means of community sourced and peer generated reviews like this forum...
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FromToLetter Rating
97100A+
9496.99A (Lectric's Rating)
9093.99A-
8789.99B+
8486.99B
8083.99B-
7779.99C+
7476.99C
7073.99C-
6769.99D+
6466.99D
6063.99D-
059.99F
 
How accurate is this? 🤔
Is BBB a place for people who had negative experience to report it?

I'm not trying to take Lectric's side at all, but when I searched for Rad Power (which I think is one of the best online ebike company in terms of customer service), they had 1.83/5 rating, which is pretty bad.

It also says Lectric had 1 complaint, which in my opinion, does not show statistically significant data.. because 1 person will be representing the entire experience for all the Lectric customers.
If the BBB has insufficient data to provide a rating it will be indicated by the letters NR (I think). They don't use customer reviews for ratings data. Customer's complaints are only one portion of compiled data.
Rad Power Bikes LLC BBB Rating
 
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