Where can you lock up your bike near stores

BEC111

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This article, Public Bike Racks, at the Cycling Independent, discusses a critical factor in the adoption of bicycling. Can you safely lockup your bike at your destination?

At the train station? At your job? At the store? At the cafe at ride’s end?

What’s your experience?

if your locality has done a good job, what factors contributed to the successful implementation of pubic racks? Do you have suggestions on reaching out to local governments or developers?
 
hmmm i’ll admit, this is something i’ve never even considered. just about every road around here near a shop or restaurant or other place i’d stop at has parking meters, street signs, lamp posts, and/or bike racks.

at the office i park in private indoor bike parking, a requirement for all new buildings here, and long since retrofitted to almost all other large ones.
 
Actually I've noticed a tendency for building designers to put bike parking in an out-of-the way spot away from any direct observation. This makes it easier for bike thieves to get on with their foul business without being disturbed or observed.
 
Actually I've noticed a tendency for building designers to put bike parking in an out-of-the way spot away from any direct observation. This makes it easier for bike thieves to get on with their foul business without being disturbed or observed.
I've noticed exactly the same thing. But its not universal. My local Costco did that in two separate store locations, but eventually moved them near the front door (but put them in bad places; like in direct sunlight and next to a fire exit that has to be kept clear).

Being a cargo biker / shopper, I use bike racks of one sort or another almost every day. One thing I try and do is scout out locking spots in advance of actually needing them in local shop areas. Generally speaking, I don't have trouble finding something suitable, although it may be a metal fence railing and not an actual bike rack. If I don't find anything then that means I don't patronize that store out of necessity.
 
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Not many bike racks at stores where I ride. For lack of anything else, I'll use a cable lock and attach the bike to 3 or 4 shopping carts.
 
The only store that I shop at that has a rack is my grocery store. Costco doesn't have any, but I've considered tying up in the horse barn, since it's out of the way and I don't have to worry about the Amish messing with it. The restaurant supply store I shop at, I talked to the manager and she's working on having them installed because a lot of mennonites and amish shop there to. The farm market I go to doesn't have any, but I found a place to tie up near one of the stands I frequent.

Bike shops in the area don't have any, I commented to one that I didn't know about until I saw them and rode up to the other day. Said that there's a certain level of irony for a bike shop to not have racks out front. He just shrugged. I haven't seen a bike shop yet that has racks out front. Seems like a no brainer, but none around here do that I've seen.

I guess businesses don't see it as being important because around here, most people aren't riding for practical reasons. They're not shopping with their bikes and they drive their bike on a rack to the bike shops.

I'm trying to convince my oldest daughter to do a project with her girlscouts to start a program to buy racks for businesses to install. More people would probably ride if they had a place to turn up. I talked to the store manager of my grocery store to try to convince him to put a camera that faces the bike rack. He said he'd consider it if they ever put cameras outside. Right now they don't have any outside.
 
I've noticed exactly the same thing. But its not universal. My local Costco did that in two separate store locations, but eventually moved them near the front door (but put them in bad places; like in direct sunlight and next to a fire exit that has to be kept clear).

Being a cargo biker / shopper, I use bike racks of one sore or another almost every day. One thing I try and do is scout out locking spots in advance of actually needing them in local shop areas. Generally speaking, I don't have trouble finding something suitable, although it may be a metal fence railing and not an actual bike rack. If I don't find anything then that means I don't patronize that store out of necessity.
It frustrates me too. It's primarily longer-term parking that presents the biggest problem in my biking years. There's a movement in many cities to improve bicycling infrastructure and along with it better lockup facilities. Sadly that's a very slow process. I keep thinking the increase in riders due to eBikes and a growing number of concerned riders we may see some improvements. The only shop in the downtown area of a 25,000-pop city here to provide bike lock posts is my dentist. He's a road cyclist. The local hospital has a bike rack that has to be 50 years old and sized for 2" max and smaller tires.

A nearby grocer has a rack and nearly every month there's a bike stolen report in the paper. Usually, a big box store bike owned by some poor sod gets dumped when the thief is near their intended destination.

A local fellow did us a service.

Winona entrepreneur fights crime​

  • May 18, 2016 Updated Sep 27, 2021
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by CHRIS ROGERS

For years, bicycles have been relatively easy prey for thieves. A quick snip with a pair of bolt cutters is enough to slice through most cable locks and then the bike snatcher is riding off into the sunset. But thanks to new technology, Winona thieves no longer know whether a bike is an easy target or a trap. This spring, a Winona entrepreneur who was the victim of bike theft used his tinkering skills to make bicycles throughout the city safer. Like any good crime story, it starts underground.

The basement of Greg's small business evokes the Bat Cave. It is full of complex-looking gadgets, that he has, of late, used to fight crime. A 3-D printer and coils of different kinds of plastic filament — the ink in 3-D printers — lean against one wall. A desk-mounted magnifying lens and soldering equipment sit on a table top. A GPS-outfitted drone rests on the floor. Little widgets are scattered about. Most of them are all sensors of one kind of another. Gyrometers and accelerometers detect movement, barometers measure changes in air pressures, and more sensors monitor temperature and water flow. Greg's usual clients are manufacturers who want to track the performance of factory equipment on their smartphones. When Greg's bicycle was stolen this winter, he thought there must be a way to find it.
Usually when a person's bike is stolen, they are out of luck. Out of nearly $1.3 million in reported bicycle thefts in Minnesota in 2014, only $159,000 worth of bikes were recovered. Bike theft may be getting more lucrative these days, too. The average value of bicycles stolen in Minnesota rose from $225 in 2000 to $377 in 2014, and while the majority of stolen bicycles may only be worth a few hundred dollars, some are worth several thousand. Greg's bike was valued at $1,200.

Greg is not his real name. The local owner of a technology startup asked that the Winona Post not use his name. It is understandable since he played a crucial role in apprehending a man that stole upwards of $2,000 in bikes and now faces a felony charge.

Greg did it by designing his own GPS units that he hid inside a "bait bike." There are other companies that make bait bikes, but Greg said he was surprised that there were few products on the market that would work well for the task. So, he assembled his own GPS devices that deliver notifications to his phone anytime they leave a designated "geofence." The geofences were basically one-block boxes Greg drew around his bike using mapping software. Greg set up geofences around all the places he planned to ride the bait bike to. Whenever he rode from place to place, his phone would buzz with a note from the GPS unit that the bike had left location A and was now in location B.

Greg contacted the Winona Police Department (WPD) ahead of time to tell them about his bait-bike plan. They were interested — and impressed. "The guy is super intelligent," said WPD Sergeant Chris Nelson, who worked with Greg to investigate the case. "We'd been putzing with GPS on a bike ourselves for a while, and it was hit and miss. There were lots of false alarms that set us on a wild goose chase," Nelson explained. "He came to us and said, 'Hey I can do this. I want to do this.'"

It was a challenge to make the GPS units small enough, Greg said, and to make sure that they would not run out of batteries. Some GPS units are programmed to go to sleep when they are not moving, for instance, he explained. That is great for saving battery life, but it means that they do not always wake up in time to document their own theft. If it is not the battery, something always goes wrong with technology, Greg said. So he worked hard to design a system in which every part was redundant; if one part failed, there would be a backup that could take over. Once he perfected it, he started riding his bait bike around.

One day, Greg was working out at the Winona YMCA, with the bait bike locked up outside, when his phone buzzed, alerting him that the bike — without him on it — had left the geofence. Greg threw his clothes in the locker and dashed out. The hunt was on.

Greg's GPS system mapped out a neat trail leading back to the thief's house. He alerted the WPD, they sent officers to knock on the door. When that did not work, they went about trying to get a search warrant for the house. That took a while because the police were not accustomed to getting warrants based on GPS evidence, Nelson explained. "It's not like TV where you can wrap it up in 60 minutes and there's time for four commercials in there," he said. Together with help from prosecutors and lots of details from Greg on how the technology works, they got a local judge to sign the warrant, and they found several stolen bikes and a collection of bike parts at the house. Officers described it as a bicycle "chop shop."

"In 28 years, it's never happened," Nelson said when asked if he had ever seen such a successful amateur sleuth/victim. Unfortunately, Greg's bike — the one that was originally stolen — was not recovered. Police are still working to find the owners of the other bikes and bike frames found at the house, and are still looking for Greg's original bike, a black Surly Pugsley brand fat bike.
Greg said he sympathized with the thief and anyone who felt that they had to steal to get money, but he was also glad to be discouraging future bike thefts.
Greg's company is continuing to experiment with bait bikes — including using things like hidden cameras and microphones, in addition to GPS — and Nelson said the WPD will use bait bikes in the future, as well. If he can perfect a bait-bike system, Greg sees it as a business opportunity for the company. Police departments and college campuses across the country might want to use it to discourage bike thieves. Nelson was excited about all the other potential applications of GPS bait, from backpacks to valuable parcels. "We could do all kinds of stuff with GPS," he said.
Daniel James Glubka, 45, of Winona, was charged with felony theft in the case early this month. He has not submitted a plea in the case yet. Stealing property valued at over $1,000 is a felony in Minnesota.
 
I use the shopping cart rack. The light post concrete impact bumper make them too big to fit a 6' sling. Make sure you put the chain or cable around the junction of the two sides of the cart rack, else a cheap thief can unbolt the two rack halves with $6 in pliers and slip your cable off the end of the rack. There is one restaurant that has no cart racks, but has a light pole I can slip the cable end behind the 2" nuts that hold the light pole down to the concrete bumper. The farm supply has no cart racks or fence poles, but I've locked the bike to a mower attachment with the only penalty a chewing out by the manager. I took a refund on my $70 purchase that day. Wasted 15 minutes of her time.
Yes, a thief could saw a cart rack poles in 5 minutes with a battery grinder. Nobody has done that to my bike in 4 years in my town. Cutting 1 wire at a time with a $27 diagonal cutter a thief could cut my SS cable in ~40 minutes. Nobody has done that either. The stainless wire would dull a $7 import cutter. SS capable cable cutters in the 1/2" size are $280 from the industrial supply.
 
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Our local Palm Springs Police just did something similar last week with a "bait bike" left out in front of a store. The thief grabbed the bike and walked it about 50 yards across the street and was then nabbed. He and another fella were arrested and taken to jail. The Police had it on their Facebook page and Next Door. My guess is they did not stay in the slammer for long and are probably back at it again...
 
Actually I've noticed a tendency for building designers to put bike parking in an out-of-the way spot away from any direct observation. This makes it easier for bike thieves to get on with their foul business without being disturbed or observed.

you’ll be happy to know that this isn’t really allowed any more in most advanced jurisdictions, at least those that require LEED equivalence, or use aligned model codes.

Short-term bicycle storage must be within 100 feet (30 meters) walking distance of any main entrance. Long-term bicycle storage must be within 100 feet (30 meters) walking distance of any functional entry.
 
Short-term bicycle storage must be within 100 feet (30 meters) walking distance of any main entrance. Long-term bicycle storage must be within 100 feet (30 meters) walking distance of any functional entry.

Actually 100 feet could easily put the bike rack around the corner from the main entrance and into an alley or the side of the building.
 
I was talking with a guy at a LBS. Very helpful. He essentially said any bike lock is a deterrent, and the bad guys will look for an easier target. So, park around other bikes especially unlocked ones. :)

IMHO, this is true if all the bad guys want is a bike. If they are looking for more expensive bikes and have equipped themselves to steal them there is not much anyone can do. The most secure action is to lock the bike in a conspicuous location.
 
Actually 100 feet could easily put the bike rack around the corner from the main entrance and into an alley or the side of the building.
true - although that’s not the intent, of course. many jurisdictions also add direct line of sight, etc.

where they belong is in the sidewalk, between street trees, directly adjacent to every storefront. that’s where/how i park mine 99% of the time. secure longer term parking is a bigger challenge.
 
Where I live in Ashbur, VA, virtually none of the stores or shopping centers have bike racks. One shopping centric development does have a few racks that are marginally located. The shopping area centric communities mostly don‘t have racks. One of the nearby bike shops has a rack but it’s tucked out of the way on a side street.

To my knowledge, none of the local medical facilities have racks either. They are all car centric. I’ve complained to my cardiologist that her office is essentially only accessible by car. A sad commentary on how cub our society values health.
 
Kind of a "no $#it" story here.

In a small city in the Pacific Northwest, not exactly someplace I'd consider a high-crime area at all, I intended to park my fully loaded bike and hit the grocery store. The state and location of the bike rack discouraged me so I walked the bike into the store and parked and locked it in full visibility of the checkout lines.

I proceeded to go about my business, but within a minute or two a manager intercepted me and informed me I needed to park my bike outside. He also helpfully offered to show me where the bike rack was, so I agreed to walk with him back to the bike rack.

What greeted him was a bike rack with a front wheel still locked to the rack, and the remains of at least two locks scattered on the ground around the rack. I told him I was going to take my business somewhere where my bike wasn't at such dramatic risk.
 
To my knowledge, none of the local medical facilities have racks either. They are all car centric. I’ve complained to my cardiologist that her office is essentially only accessible by car. A sad commentary on how cub our society values health.
The local medical office building, the hospital, my doctor's office, the same way. The first two I have to park my bike across the street to use a power pole, then cross at the traffic light. A 5 minute walk. Had to do that when I broke my chin & went to the emergencyroom. The doctor's office has a rack of gas meters around the end from the entrance. Sawing through a live natural gas pipe is a great way to end a burglar's career. Two minute walk.
Reference post 16, the grocery I shop at has front wheel racks 50' from the front door. I won't use them: preferring the cart rack 150 ' away.
The 24/7 gym has nothing out front, just the cart racks of a grocery store 600' away. I told the manager I wasn't renewing my membership until he provided a bike tether. 4 years later, no change. I've bought home exercise equipment rather than patronizing that car-addicted idiot. He's age 55, I'll probably outlive him. 4 men that have attacked my lifestyle with zoning complaints or threatened lawsuits are dead already.
 
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I think the biggest issue any of you pushing a business to install a bike rack is that they don't see the benefit for the expenditure. I don't believe that it is the responsibility of the local government entities to spend the money to put a piece of apparatus on private property.

One guy saying he won't renew his membership unless there's a bike rack isn't going to do it. Around here, there just aren't enough people that ride outside of exercising to make any business think about it.

The idea my little girl and I had was to try to get a program started where we identify a business that would benefit. Talk to them about the idea of having one installed and if costs were covered and a suitable place to put it existed, then work towards raising the funds to buy and install a rack. We haven't gotten past the point of just thinking about it yet, but we've been working on plans. Try to get bike shops and biking groups involved.

There's a business strip not far from me that I pass all the time going to the grocery store. I has a very modern rack with integrated air lines. I never see anyone at it, regardless of time of day. That's what businesses see too, not enough people riding bike to make it worth their while to install something themselves out of pocket.

If you build it, they will come doesn't always play out in real life.
 
I made a cargo bike for a mom, Natalie. Now we are friends. She needed to pick up some fish for dinner so she walked it inside Wholefoods. The fish monger was so impressed with her bike and her enthusiasm that she was not charged at check out. The racks there are off to one side and out of sight. Another store has a bike enclosure with a locked door with racks inside. It is not visible at all. One would need to park their bike. Go inside and find the GM and have that person walk out with you to lock your bike inside. Then the same process to get your bike back. I always take my bikes inside that store. There are bike lockers at the train station and it takes a key card with a password to open them. No one knows which ones have bikes in them. They would need to check each with their key card. There are cameras. I do not go where businesses are not bike friendly. And I post a Bike Friendly tag on Google Maps that shows ones that are.
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I think the biggest issue any of you pushing a business to install a bike rack is that they don't see the benefit for the expenditure. I don't believe that it is the responsibility of the local government entities to spend the money to put a piece of apparatus on private property.

One guy saying he won't renew his membership unless there's a bike rack isn't going to do it. Around here, there just aren't enough people that ride outside of exercising to make any business think about it.

The idea my little girl and I had was to try to get a program started where we identify a business that would benefit. Talk to them about the idea of having one installed and if costs were covered and a suitable place to put it existed, then work towards raising the funds to buy and install a rack. We haven't gotten past the point of just thinking about it yet, but we've been working on plans. Try to get bike shops and biking groups involved.

There's a business strip not far from me that I pass all the time going to the grocery store. I has a very modern rack with integrated air lines. I never see anyone at it, regardless of time of day. That's what businesses see too, not enough people riding bike to make it worth their while to install something themselves out of pocket.

If you build it, they will come doesn't always play out in real life.
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