When Paris started dropping cars

Well all the cyclepaths up the coast have been rebuilt, from perfectly good enough to micromanaged with little plastic stop signs for every farmers gate.
Must have cost millions and there was 6 months of traffic carnage as they block the whole carriageway while they are working on the cycle path which is removed from the tarmac by a four foot grass verge

Probably get 50 bikes a day of regular traffic.
Why build more where its difficult when you can rebuild perfectly good old ones where its easy for the construction team.
 
I had to run and arrend today. The bike infrastructure worked perfectly. I took a protected bike lane to the rail trail and to the station. That took five minutes. People can take five minutes just parking. I had no traffic lights. I hopped on the train with a book that is 713 pages long and one-half-hour later I was in a much larger town called Santa Rosa to pick up some tires. A half-hour after arrival I was on the next train south. I met a nice bikepacking couple. Today they are taking the train to the ferry across the Bay to San Francisco and staying a Monterey tonight to have an adventure down the coast to San Simeon.
Chargeride said:
Probably get 50 bikes a day of regular traffic.
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I do not know this circumstance but in urban areas when people feel safe riding bikes then they start doing it. Thing one sets off thing two.
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Chargeride said:
Well all the cyclepaths up the coast have been rebuilt, from perfectly good enough to micromanaged with little plastic stop signs for every farmers gate.
Must have cost millions and there was 6 months of traffic carnage as they block the whole carriageway while they are working on the cycle path which is removed from the tarmac by a four foot grass verge

Probably get 50 bikes a day of regular traffic.
Why build more where its difficult when you can rebuild perfectly good old ones where its easy for the construction team.
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Cycle paths work better for optimists :) See the new MUP bridge in Warsaw built last year. We all Warsaw cyclists were waiting for it! (Czerniakowski Harbour on the left, the Vistula on the right).

50 bikes a day during English winter is not bad at all :)
 
Sadly its more likely the upgrade is tied in with the house building tsunami along the road, Im sure theres multiple layers of legislation for funding, backhanders, jobs for the boys etc.
 
Chargeride said:
Sadly its more likely the upgrade is tied in with the house building tsunami along the road, Im sure theres multiple layers of legislation for funding, backhanders, jobs for the boys etc.
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You mean, in your area?

It seems that the Mayor of Warsaw, Mr Trzaskowski, wants to transform Warsaw into another modern London. :) which is not bad. There have been several big investments during his time in the office:
  • Varso Tower (The Shard)
  • The Museum of Modern Arts (Tate Modern)
  • The Square of Five Corners (Seven Dials)
  • The Quick Link (Millenium Bridge)
  • The new tram lines
  • Building the Warsaw West railway station anew
  • and many more
He is still in the office, so the MUP Bridge in Czerniakowski Harbour is one of his latest achievements, and more are ongoing.

Let me mention The Spinka (Quick Link) MUP bridge, which has become the twelfth Vistula bridge of Warsaw. Trzaskowski was criticized for everything: high construction cost, doing the investors of Praga Harbour housing estate a favour (certainly a bribe, they say!), the bridge not really needed, the bridge not actually good for cycling, just name it. It was of course related to the political struggle in Poland, like anywhere else.

As Spinka was opened, it turned out the favourite spot for Warsawers, teeming with life in the warm season.

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The 31st of March 2024.

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The 14th of April 2024. See the skid marks :) (The surface was improved later during the nights).

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Some call it Agrafka (Safety Pin).
 
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Stefan Mikes said:
You mean, in your area?

It seems that the Mayor of Warsaw, Mr Trzaskowski, wants to transform Warsaw into another modern London. :) which is not bad. There have been several big investments during his time in the office:
  • Varso Tower (The Shard)
  • The Museum of Modern Arts (Tate Modern)
  • The Square of Five Corners (Seven Dials)
  • The Quick Link (Millenium Bridge)
  • The new tram lines
  • Building the Warsaw West railway station anew
  • and many more
He is still in the office, so the MUP Bridge in Czerniakowski Harbour is one of his latest achievements, and more are ongoing.

Let me mention The Spinka (Quick Link) MUP bridge, which has become the twelfth bridge of Warsaw. Trzaskowski was criticized for everything: high construction cost, doing the investors of Praga Harbour housing estate a favour (certainly a bribe, they say!), the bridge not really needed, the bridge not actually good for cycling, just name it. It was of course related to the political struggle in Poland, like anywhere else.

As Spinka was opened, it turned out the favourite spot for Warsawers, teeming with life in the warm season.

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The 31st of March 2024.

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The 14th of April 2024. See the skid marks :) (The surface was improved later during the nights).

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Some call it Agrafka (Safety Pin).
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for the people! thank God.
 
Good to see investments in infrastructure, so much of the US is reaching end of life. We will either see at worst failures with injuries and deaths, or at best significant disruptions and emergency reconstruction contracts. Long term planning is not one of our better traits. And we could probably afford infrastructure maintenance if we didn't throw away so much money on fraudulent welfare.
 
Im reading this thread, thinking about repying to my issues with the cyclectrack and how it ends at a wood and you have to drop into a 60 mph bottle neck where you ride with a 100 cars behind you, everyone cursing you.

So I decide not to write anything and went to youtube...
This video was at the top of my feed.

I havent searched anything about the road in youtube or google
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A good thing for you Charge to watch.

Here is where Warsaw cyclists are safely riding:
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Old-tool-guy said:
Good to see investments in infrastructure, so much of the US is reaching end of life. We will either see at worst failures with injuries and deaths, or at best significant disruptions and emergency reconstruction contracts. Long term planning is not one of our better traits. And we could probably afford infrastructure maintenance if we didn't throw away so much money on fraudulent welfare.
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Most of our money is not going to "fraudulent welfare" -- oh, unless you count corporate welfare like tax breaks for giant corporations. Most of our money is going into ICE and Homeland Security. Billions.
 
I just watched part of the video, but I am not going to sit through 1.5 hours of it. I can see the point he is trying to make and I enjoy using MUPs for safer walking, running, and cycling. However, separate infrastructure isn't the solution for roadies that like to ride in packs at 20mph. They are either going to ignore the 15mph speed limit on the MUP and be a complete menace to everyone else using the path or not be able to get the workout they were looking for.
 
Chargeride said:
Mountain bikers dont become those guys because its us against the terrain, not drivers.
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Mountain bikers ride off-road, especially in the mountains :) Or, they do Cross Country. You do both.

We, however, discuss the cycling infrastructure of a big city.

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I'm sure Amsterdam or Copenhagen have this. Not sure about Paris. (The sign reads "Doesn't apply to bicycles").

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Here's a long City of Warsaw street where bicycles have the priority, and even dedicated street crossings.
 
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