What are some of the less expensive bikes with torque sensors?

I’m ok with Tom. I’d look to the fellas here for advice and go to your local bike shop for assistance. I don’t sell or recommend eBikes.
 
Thomas Jaszewski said:
I’m ok with Tom. I’d look to the fellas here for advice and go to your local bike shop for assistance. I don’t sell or recommend eBikes.
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Oops. And ladies here. We’re blessed with lady moderators that are very eBike wise. Great help available.
 
Some would never consider it, but the best way to get more for less in bikes, etc. is to shop patiently on Craiglist or other used-market means/media, though it's more efficient in more populous areas. Patience is key anywhere, but people regularly buy bikes with the best intentions, and then barely use them. I see a CL seller in a Midwestern city today that has two nice 2017 models that read: "BRAND NEW CONDITION - RARELY USED". Patience note: resist compromising on size and fit. The other way is to shop for dealer left-overs, though be ware of demos or long-term floor models that may have had the batteries charged 100s of times. The last bike I bought -two years ago- was a custom-built FS MB on the auction site. It took a long time to find a 26" wheel size with all the components and the condition I required; but, I got a great deal -eventually. Good luck finding a great deal!
 
Rodolfo said:
Some would never consider it, but the best way to get more for less in bikes, etc. is to shop patiently on Craiglist or other used-market means/media, though it's more efficient in more populous areas. Patience is key anywhere, but people regularly buy bikes with the best intentions, and then barely use them. I see a CL seller in a Midwestern city today that has two nice 2017 models that read: "BRAND NEW CONDITION - RARELY USED". Patience note: resist compromising on size and fit. The other way is to shop for dealer left-overs, though be ware of demos or long-term floor models that may have had the batteries charged 100s of times. The last bike I bought -two years ago- was a custom-built FS MB on the auction site. It took a long time to find a 26" wheel size with all the components and the condition I required; but, I got a great deal -eventually. Good luck finding a great deal!
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A good plan for handy eBike hobbyists but kinda risky for the rest. Battery is a big unknown and few shops can actually test a battery. Next comes parts access and repair costs. Good advise, but the decisions should be carefully weighed. Those garage finds happen. But it’s rather like pull tabs and casino gambling. In my experience.
 
Some of these more expensive bikes’ battery packs cost upwards of $800...

Is it possible to somehow just replace the 18650’s with new cells? It seems like a shame to have to buy a whole new housing/BMS just because the cells are spent.
 
I have a few bikes hovering at the top of my list... but I’ll probably end up buying an Aventon Pace. It seems to have most of the characteristics I want... except for the cadence sensor. But a cadence sensor may not be that bad. We bought my wife an Aventon 350 that’s being delivered in a few days. If I like it, I’ll order the 500.
 
Dewey said:
Good to know, Court reviewed them twice and was told otherwise
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And they also claim 50 miles of range with a 8.7 amphour battery , 36 volts. And my 80 year old mom runs a 4 minute mile. ;)
 
Andropolis said:
I have a few bikes hovering at the top of my list... but I’ll probably end up buying an Aventon Pace. It seems to have most of the characteristics I want... except for the cadence sensor. But a cadence sensor may not be that bad. We bought my wife an Aventon 350 that’s being delivered in a few days. If I like it, I’ll order the 500.
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She'll like the 350. Motor is smooth and super quiet. For the price points on the 350 and 500, you'd have to move to a ebike priced over at least $2000 to get a discernable increase in component level performance. Adding front shocks would possibly be a benefit but that depends how and where you ride. The angle of the swept forward fork, has a vibration dampening effect along with the wider tires so it's a pretty nice ride all things considered. You could add a nice suspension seat post and possibly the Redshift suspension stem if you felt the need for more bump absorption. Both can be had for less than a good quality suspension shock on the front forks. Good luck !
 
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She'll like the 350. Motor is smooth and super quiet. For the price points on the 350 and 500, you'd have to move to a ebike priced over at least $2000 to get a discernable increase in component level performance. Adding front shocks would possibly be a benefit but that depends how and where you ride. The angle of the swept forward fork, has a vibration dampening effect along with the wider tires so it's a pretty nice ride all things considered. You could add a nice suspension seat post and possibly the Redshift suspension stem if you felt the need for more bump absorption. Both can be had for less than a good quality suspension shock on the front forks. Good luck !
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Thanks Mike... Those are all good ideas. I just ran across the Redshift suspension stem the other day and thought it might be a possibility... and I’ll almost definitely be sticking a cushy suspension seat post on it.

Though I don’t own an Aventon yet, I did start a Facebook group dedicated to their Pace eBikes if you’re on Facebook and interested. It’s brand new so there are only a few people in there. The founder of Aventon joined though. Ride1Up, Rad, Juiced, and other brands have really helpful Facebook groups so I thought Aventon should have the same community support.

The room name is: Aventon Pace - Electric Bikes

But still haven’t decided what I’ll actually buy. The iZip’s my wife and I rented rode so nice.
 
Dewey said:
Good to know, Court reviewed them twice and was told otherwise
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The later series with 350 watt motors could have torque sensing. I sold early ones with 250 watt motors. Not sure what would be on anything they label as refurbished. Stopped selling them when they began price dumping at Costco. And then best buy. I think that is the source of so many returned ebikes and where the refurbishment supply comes from.
 
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The later series with 350 watt motors could have torque sensing. I sold early ones with 250 watt motors. Not sure what would be on anything they label as refurbished. Stopped selling them when they began price dumping at Costco. And then best buy. I think that is the source of so many returned ebikes and where the refurbishment supply comes from.
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The budget market is cut throat with the big corporations Amazon (Ancheer), Walmart (Hyper, Nakto), employing their usual ruthless approach with suppliers to keep entry level ebikes around the $650-850 mark. But reading comments on customers experiences with quality issues I still think the Genze’s are a decent budget ebike assuming the distributor in Michigan is doing QC checks Stateside.

From your helpful introduction and Pete and Court’s reviews it’s clear the Aventon Pace 350 is the best ebike at the $1k price point, wish there was an Aventon dealer nearer DC than Philadelphia so I could test ride one.
 
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