Watt Wagons Ultimate Commuter 2 rides 175 miles now 1075 miles, more than 2 rides

@opimax
Good to hear your experience. I really like the titanium frame and it seems to have a ample power. I was curious about your impressions since you have experience with higher powered class3 bikes.

Other than torque sensor activation force being on the high side, how is the smoothness of the assistance?
 
Engagement is smooth, less effort at higher speed in general. The bike has the power in level 2 to keep me in the mid to upper 20s I think but my old slow legs get tired from pedaling , if it were a little easier it would be better suited for me, many may say different. I leave it in a higher power of 3 or 4 for my ”mindless pedaling“ or riding while semi daydreaming. When concentrating and remembering that I want to go fast not as noticeable but I can’t keep it up for an extended time. Also I should say it not a large change i am looking for ,slight. I have managed to do my century rides with little issues and much enjoyment. Can’t be too bad ;)

i am thinking a different larger front sprocket will improve the riding experience since I feel I am clown pedaling in a useable range of power , like to see how this effects the rest of the system 1st and then work from there.

I must say this i believe this is a personal taste issue more than a bike issue. when the power comes when pedaling there no jerky motion at all and as it accelerates in the power band it is very smooth.
 
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Yesteday I had time for a 40 miles ride. I found it the bike does slow real well, you can travel at walking speeds very smooth engagement, and continues with the motor engaged. On the other side it was probably so slightly down hill maybe flat I hit 40mph pedaling with still some resistance ln the pedals so if my SAL (slow a$$ legs) could pedal faster or if I had my hopeful extra cog so could the bike. I wasnt comfy doing high speed while concentraing on pedaling almost completely. I was on a road and to me the funny part I was speeding in a 35 mph road . I was alone as far as I could see though.

I have found at high speed the pedal resistance seems low, the opposite of my med speed finding. I still think the extra cog may solve most issues

edit want to add the motor was warm + when done playing, wouldn’t burn my hand , didn’t struggle to hold on but wouldn’t do it for fun
 
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Up to about 500 miles , honestly like the bike better each ride never believed people when they say that til now.

lowered the pressure to 40 lbs per tire , seems slightly , slightly sluggish in comparison but in the range of my mind could be making it up.… i have an idea,more riding to test, I am up for it and will report back…:)
 
opimax said:
Up to about 500 miles , honestly like the bike better each ride never believed people when they say that til now.

lowered the pressure to 40 lbs per tire , seems slightly , slightly sluggish in comparison but in the range of my mind could be making it up.… i have an idea,more riding to test, I am up for it and will report back…:)
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Different tires different bikes of course but I don't like my Hydra tires as much when fully aired up. Just a tad lower pressure ( not soft ) makes a world of difference in the comfort level. But I'm not ever on pavement so .......:)
 
opimax said:
Up to about 500 miles , honestly like the bike better each ride never believed people when they say that til now.

lowered the pressure to 40 lbs per tire , seems slightly , slightly sluggish in comparison but in the range of my mind could be making it up.… i have an idea,more riding to test, I am up for it and will report back…:)
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So at 500 miles you are suppose to change your oil on the Kindernay. Are you prepared to do it, and if so, where did you get your oil change kit?
 
Not yet, I assume I can purchase from Pushkar

the only time I haven’t been on pavement yet is my yard to the street…so far
 
The hard part will be taking on-off the wheel, tensioning the wheel/belt and not having a work stand. That said I can do this I bet :)

and if not I bet the local shop can do this and they can start to get familiar with the bike.
 
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I have kept forgetting to add the bike is able to be ridden with out hands on the handlebars. I am not offering opinions on safety just it is balanced and can be done. No wobble with batteries in the panniers. I have ridden a few bikes where this just can’t be done.
 
That's good input. Not that I would need or want to do that a lot on a bike, this side of childhood, but it speaks to balance and grace of the machine itself. Which translates to enjoyment of the riding experience if I don't feel like I am constantly fighting it.
 
Another item I forget to post about is the lack of gear indicator in the Kindernay, bigger deal than I thought. I need it for taking off in th correct gear, once riding not an issue, I can tell by cadence and pressure on the pedals (or lack of pressure) I automatically push the downshift side for 3 notches before taking off , if I do this with time I shift all the down to easiest pedaling and go up two full pushes or 6 speeds and then take off in level 2 o sometimes level 3. Get a little momentum and sometimes hit the throttle to finish my position in the saddle and maybe adjust something, and then up the gears till the the last gear like a car with a manual transmission.
 
Yeah other than the two shifters on both sides of the handlebar thing, the lack of a gear indicator is the other sour spot with the Kindernay for me.
 
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